The Billy Meier hoax photographs
Seen above, a shot of Billy Meier’s “weddingcake” craft, allegedly an extraterrestrial device. A strange appendage is circled in blue. What could it possibly be?
According to The Billy Meier case: more conclusive “smoking gun” proof of deception, that’s just the handle of a garbage can lid that can be found on Meier’s farm:
Read the full analysis for much more details. But maybe the best part is the “explanation” given by Meier (or his aliens) for why the lower part of an alleged alien craft looks exactly like a garbage can lid, complete with a handle. From Meier’s 254th Contact Report, November 28, 1995:
Ptaah: “. . . As far back as the 1920s we worked with flying devices you have named the ‘Wedding Cake Ship,’ … we endeavored to transmit all of the necessary data regarding the vehicles’ shape to terrestrial scientists, in the form of telepathic impulses, to assist them in developing flying disks on Earth … We thoroughly investigated the entire situation and discovered that the old, newly re-emerged drawings were used for the design and production of these receptacle covers. … This, then, is how the shape of the container covers came about, which, as I mentioned earlier, strikingly resemble the lower rim section and undercarriage on our flying devices.”
It’s more ridiculous than his excuses as to why his photos of the pretty Pleiadian girls were exactly like dancers from the Dean Martin show. Photographing an American show on TV and claiming it was a real contact with aliens is also not much different from photographing a book illustration and claiming it was from a time travel trip. Click the image below to check “SpaceTimeNews” comparison:
But I digress. Knowing how Meier created his alien ship, and having a photograph of an enthusiast on his farm proudly holding a garbage can lid (probably assuming it was obviously different, which it is not), tempted me to use some Photoshop skills to correctly scale the Weddingcake craft. The result:
Once again, I recommend the reading of The Billy Meier case: more conclusive “smoking gun” proof of deception for more on Meier’s garbage affair. Also, please note the man above is not Meier, and the actual model created over the garbage lid is not golden, but silver. The montage is just to show scale. And get some laughs from all of this.
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well, i’ve looked through hundreds of billy meier contact photos and the ONE you show here resembles NOTHING in the other few hundred. I’m not sure where you got this shoddy photo, but if this is your debunker of the billy meier case, you are sadly unprofessional and inexperienced…do some research…sheesh..
DB
well I think Billy saw something at one point.. he saw an alien spaceship YES!! but then he got carried away.. and the entire contacts and messanger and chosen crap was created.. I am a 100% ufo believer…
Meier is known to have been a hoaxer at the end as it got out of control and frankly there was money to be made. But that does not mean that all his material is fake. If they put you on the ’stand’ tomorrow and examine your entire life, will you be found flawless or 100% honest? Of course you will NOT BE, thus are you a good man or woman or a bad man or woman? That is the logic you apply for you own personal convenience. God does not work that way and you are fortunate, as well as you brothers and sisters that see reality as you do.
[...] Siragusa is certainly not the only contactee to copy images from common sources and present them as extraordinary photographs of, from or by extraterrestrials. Swiss contactee Billy Meier also sells photos from books and even TV shows as alien images. [...]
I’ve studied hundreds of ufo vid’s and have seen many which can’t be explained by conventional means, as for Billy’s I’m not impressed. Maybe one could possibly be real, but the bottom line is if just one of them is hoaxed then it discredits all the rest. The wedding cake is especially suspect since it suspiciously appears attached to trees in most photos, in others the photographer would have had to been free flosting in the air to take the image and in one I noticed it was taken in proximation to what clearly is a model car in the foreground. I find his evidence lacking and I think it only helps to discredit the phenomenon which in my opinion is REAL and there are many GOOD videos out there to prove it, none of them being Billy’s.
YAWN! heard it all before!,
first of all lets this straight – just because there are a couple of questionable curious aspects does not and simply CANNOT in any way invalidate the strentgth of the remaining overall vast amount of supportive evidence. In fact this is only to be expected – considering the sheer volume of that evidence itself.
Also the argument often put forward by skeptics – that if they think they have debunked one or two photos – then by extension of this that the rest then must surely be fake – this very simply can NOT carry forward – owing again to the overwhelming impregnability (and irreproducibility!) of that remaining volume of sheer hard pyhsical evidence.
more specificlly – (and just briefly)
on wedding cake – if one examines the video billy took (using a very early SABA brand of european camera) the zoom employed shows unquestionably that we are dealing with a very very large object – that simply cannot be a trashcan – the forced perspective theories do not hold up here.
on dean martin lookalike – if one is to examine carefully a photo of the woman in question – there are hugh facial discrepencies (eg. size of forehead, cheekbones etc.) It requires bit of closer scrutiny – but once the realisation of this sets in – it starts to make sense that yes – an image of this woman may surely have overlaid ON TOP OF whatever photo billy took of the original pleadian girl – and that really this is the only real possibility – again as a result of the very perceivable and unquestionably facial incongruity that is made apparent under closer examination. THerefore the conclusion that must surely be reached for the critical thinker is that indeed there must have had to have been tampering with billy’s original photos as he took them.
on dino shot – if one looks more closely – its not really an exact match is it! therefore proving nothing.
go to my youtube site listed above – and view the videos – ‘meier case reopened’ parts 1 and 2.
also there is a brand new film out – entitled ‘the silent revolution of truth’
also there is an entire free book online available for download entitled ‘ufo contact with the Pleiades’
meier was able to accurately describe the exact nature of the chemical composition of jupiter’s ring before science got there.
also he was able to accurately describe the nature of the atmosphere on venus beneath the dense cloud cover – once again before mainstream science got there.
billy is for real….
and humans beings choose to ignore this at their absolute peril.
I first saw Billy’s book when I was 9 or 10 years old, and was sure the pictures were real. As an adult, even one with no forensic knowledge, they look pretty damn fake. I would love to believe in UFOs, ghosts, even a supreme being. Still looking to be convinced, but haven’t been, and photos/videos will never qualify as convincing evidence for me. Some things you just need to experience firsthand to believe.
seems like the last poster doesn’t have much knowledge in general. If he did he would know that the meier shots in fact hold up to all kinds of scientific scrutiny. his comment is a common one – but is lacking in any grounding really – ie entirely a subjective viewpoint. Personally I am of the opinion that because meier’s shots are so detailed adults rule them out becuase it is so very rare that such close detailed photos are available of ufos… usually more often than not, they are just blobs.. and they just go – no way can that be real – (ie because of their adult programming/conditioning)
Stevo – If the Meier shots hold up to ‘all kinds of scientific scrutiny’ I haven’t seen any evidence of that – can you let me know where to look??? Honestly? these are the worst ufo pictures I have ever seen … I can’t beleive this guys making money out of people like you. Very, very sad! Also, I’ve got a very interesting jelly mould in my kitchen how much do you think I can make??
The Photograph where the person is holding the wedding cake ship is not true.
It may the case, that the person is holding the garbage can lid.
It is definately faked, just to show the mission as a fake.
Aditya, please read the note carefully, as it’s clearly informed that the image of the person holding the wedding cake ship is indeed a montage, “just to show scale”.
The original one is linked, where the man is holding a garbage can lid from one of Meier’s farms.
Oooooh! photoshop in 1970?
wuaaaoooo.
in respect to dino shots….
there are distinct differences between the two respective dino shots –
first of all differences in relaton to detail on respective dinos – ie. the position and size of white detail/white-stipes.
Also there is the issue of the surrounding colouring that is noticeably absent on the left photograph…supposedly billy’s photo
both of these points serve towards towards negating the prospect of billy having taken a photo of the dino from the book that is shown – and that obviously something else is going on here – question being – what?? ie what kind of falsifying and/or replacement – as this is really the only logical possibility..
bottom line – there is FAR FAR more evidence IN FAVOUR of the meier case being true than that of being false.
especially the issue of the ufo – rising up over the distant hill/horizon – which virtually gives proof positive in terms of the following….
that Billy meier is indeed for REAL.
- & that everyone should ought to have a read of HENOCH PROPHECIES to know what might be in store for mankind unless we change our ways – and change them fast!!!
well what company do you work for?, as the same as jonathan reed case they want to disacredit these guys, whts the problem on letting the world know? you are not coming out victorious, one day the truth will be shown
Wer glaubt bloß an den Billy Meier Bullshit ,schwachsinn hoch 3, guckt euch doch den Müll mal an, fliegende Gullideckel mit Christbaumkugeln.
Das ich nicht lache.
Look, people. The flying bird pic is EXACTLY the same as the one in the magazine. The backround is a different color. Thats it! Gimme a break.
Is the ‘time travel’ pterodactyl supposed to be the one in the book?
It’s not.
The ‘time travel’ one has a comprehensively larger chestal blaze, (i.e. highlighted area), so much so it reaches down to the stomach area.
The ‘time travel’ one has a comprehensively larger crop, (i.e., pouch area between beak and neck).
The legs are different, their arch much more strongly curved, much wider.
The snake is completely different, too, longer, differently oriented and curved in space.
The peculiar thing, I’m in a slight state of shock. I always thought Meier was a complete phony. I took everyone’s word for this until I bothered to look at the ufo films for myself only to be struck by how technically clever they were considering they were supposed to be ‘obvious’ bin lids dangling from a bit of string.
Then I decided to give the ‘obviously phony’ stills a look…
I wasn’t impressed by the thing made of ‘golden christmas tree baubles mounted on a motorbike tyre’, (which is what it resembled to me), but that ‘time travel’ pterodactyl pic gave me something of a start…
Having the eyes of an artist I could instantly see the resemblances between it and the pic in the book were at best superficial, nor am I saying it’s definitely for real, but when I went over the two of ‘em with my magnifier set at three and in false colour mode, I was shocked to see how the image in the book became not only monotone but even more flat and lifeless, particularly the serpent, (poorly rendered as what amounted to little more than a short smudhed squiggle), whereas the false coloured ‘time travel’ serpent suddenly became vividly, almost 3-dimensionally rendered.
If this proves nothing else, it proves all the talk about Meier’s pictures being obvious and crappy fakes is complete crap itself, because either Meier himself, or someone he knows, is a much cleverer artist than anyone’s hitherto given them credit for.
i cant wait to see what’s going to happen next
Yeah, i really think that Non Earth-Humans exists and other kinds of alien species, because i happend to see a space craft in the woods where i live, it was just going to take off, but i am 100% sure that i saw it i don’t care what anyone else thinks…and i also belive in billy meier’s photos…
Most people need to believe in something. UFOs, ghosts, religion, whatever, and their respective believers can come up with any amount of “proof” to support their case. Maybe all the Billy Meier believers can get themselves a ranch down in Texas . . .
to mark scalise
PLEASE do not put UFOs in the same category as ‘ghosts’ & ‘resligion’ – that is a completely foolish and totally rubbish association – for anyone who is in any doubt about the the validity of the UFO phenomenon – i would urge them to watch the online videos ’secret space’ parts 1 & 2 – on google video
also the information that is containted within the overall Meier message has the ability to deal finally an utter death blow to the profound and utter stupid foolishness and irritatin controlling nonsense of religion as it is none today and that is totally evolution stifling by the way! – i.e. Meier being Herald or harbringer if you will – of the real untainted truth of the ages – to the peoples of the earth in this time of dire need.
ok – that is all
to conclude – ufos of course real – but what about the meier case???
that is something you folks are going to have to think real hard about it – just dont be sure to make any snap judgements – be sure to spend a lot of time looking at this legendary UFO case from ALL angles!
so long.
Wait a minute… the lid to that barrel’s diameter-to-height ratio seems to be larger than that of the layer of the craft which is being compared to it. I could be wrong. Has anybody checked it?
Why do humans consistantly ask some lonely old fart for advice about history, et.al. Listen, not one human is better than another. This guy Billy says he has visits, why him? why would some goofy lookin alien give a whoot about us? we aren’t even the centre of the universe, we aren’t good to each other, we don’t care who blows the place to smithereens. But the one thing we all do is share, on the net. And this guy is making money off of people who really can’t afford to pay a thing. If simple farmer billy saw Jesus (who has many names) than why can’t you? This contact brought no peace only confusion if it even happened. I know what I’ve seen, and I never had a contact. I know what I can do, and I’ve never made a dollar. I have a prediction for you, its free. I say, the U.S. and Britain aren’t helping African people because they’re hoping that they can latch into their resources. Africa is abundant is salt, gold, diamonds, workers of the land. the U.S. and Britain are going to take that land for themselves and make trillions. I say it will happen in about four years. That’s my prediction.
Wtf all of these pictures are photoshoped. THe golden spaceship in the guys hand has been cut & pasted same with the dinobird in the book. And then the lid is from the last photoshoped pic with the gold ship lame
Tell me this. If the Plejaren really went to visit Billy. Why is there no clear reasonable photos of the Plejaren girl. Ok you got some video of craft floating in a blurry dubious way, would could easy be models. But no video of talking to the plejaren girl. Notice that? If I wanted to produce evidence I would get a few clear photos of the plejaren girl herself, perhaps with me in the picture too.
But instead just a blurry face shot which could be from the dean martin show and pretty much looks like a girl from the 70s rather than a space woman.
Also is the wedding cake craft really a realistic design for an advanced spaceship of a civilization? To me it looks like something from the 70s Billy made up. The plejaren wouldn’t make a craft like that. What is it doing landed outside his house like that anyway? Is that a normal place to put the spaceship? No. Also why is it clear close up to the camera and the house blurry? Like it is only 3 feet wide?
And if Billy did time travel. I would have clear reasonable photos, and many of them, as well of video clips depicting my journals. I wouldn’t have a few blurry out of focus photos. As you can see that dinosaur does indeed look the same as the one in the illustration of the book, even having the same worm in front of it. I would have better photography skills and capture the dinosaurs and landscape clearly with a distinct storyline behind my journey with the plejaren girl.
But he couldn’t produce that why? Because there is a good chance he didn’t time travel and meet the plejaren. There is a good chance he is being deceptive. I would put my money on it. I would say this entire case is fake for a number of reasons which are so complicated I myself could write a book about it.
YAWN! is right
Billy boy is a hoaxer plain and simple.If you dolts refuse to open your eyes to that fact oh well……..
Yup the dinosaur pic is a hoax… but jesus you are really stretching it with the garbage bin photos. You’re just harming your cause… stick to facts. It looks nothing like the garbage bin lid.
THIS IS VERY INTERESTING STUFF I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED BUT AM UPSET AT THE LOSS OF JUSTIFIABLE PROOF BEING WASHED AWAY AS FILTH DO TOO HOAXED INFO AND ATTENTION SEEKERS I AM HOWEVER HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING “PROOF” THAT DOESN’T COST MONEY IF I SAW SOMETHING I WOULD JUST WANT TOO SPREAD THE TRUTH …RIGHT OR WRONG THANK YOU FOR THE OBJECTIVENESS
Good job at replicating the wedding cake and bird photo, if meier did indeed fake some of his evidence, which does not make alot of sense to me because alot of his proof is substantial, including lots of his future predictions are down right prophetic and accurate, which I know anyone can make a educated prediction on anything, but lightning has struck more than once with meier, and for the fact his neighbors are witnesses to all this ufo activity, you would have to convince me that his neighbors are behind the scam also before I can buy into your debunking, but you do an excellent job on replication, and I give you kudos for doing what the amazing randy wouldn’t try.
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let’s see…
1970 + Photoshop = Agenda!!!
As far as the prophesies are concerned, I noticed Billy stole some of them from Baba Vanga whose prophesies turned out to be real.
Billy Meier stole from Baba Vanga?
do you have proof?
You should watch ; “The silent revolution of truth” – If you think the world we live in is at it is and is as the religious taught us then you’ve got it complety wrong and you are missing the point – Open you mind and look at yourself in the mirror – Do you really think we are the fruit of evolution on earth? Don’t think so. We were put on this earth and we are being observed.
1-YOU MADE THE PIC OF THE WEDDING CAKE
2 ITS PROOVED-PROOVED THAT THE USA GOVT INFILTRATED MEIER AS EARLY AS 1974-AS THEY WERE SCARED-SO DEBUNK 1ST B4 THE STORY GETS OUT
3-MEIERS PIX STILL-STILL! HOLD UP AFTER 40 YEARS
4THE KEY-PLEASE DISCUSS-AS YOU ARE AN EXPERT HERE I WANT YOUR EXPLANATION+INTERPRETATION-OF “THE KEY” ANYONE -SCEPTIC OR BELIEVER KNOWS THIS-ID LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW
5 YOU HAVE NOT BEEN 2 HINWIL-I HAVE!
6DILLETOSO PATENTED PHOTOSHOP-HE STANDS BY+REAXANMINES THE PIX EVERY SINGLE YEAR-STILL THEY ARE THE BEST DAYLITE DISC PIX-EVER!
7-THE BIRD IS A PTERRADON-NOT PTERODACTYL -AS THE ONE IN THE BOOK IS!!!THERE IS A SUBTLE DIFFERENCE+THERE ARE GROWING REPORTS FROM PNG THAT THE US GOVT HAVE SUCCEEDED WITH PROJECT SPIELBERG!-380 SIGHTINGS OF PTERRADONS IN PNG IN 5 YEARS-IRONIC THAT 7 YEARS AGO THE USA SET UP YET ANOTHER UNDERGROUND CLONING FACILITY …..IN PAPUA NEW GUINEA!
YOU PICK ON 1 FACT FROM A LIFETIME -FFS HE HAS UNITED NATIONS BACKING!! THESE POLITICIANS ARE COMING FORWARD+YOU RELY ON A FAKED PIC THAT YOU MADE?!?!?
YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILTY+YOUR PLAN HAS BACKFIRED BIG TIME!
UFO’s? You saw a UFO? SO WHAT!? Even if a UFO scraped against your house and dropped a piece of “alien” metal for you to share with the world. IT WOULDN’T CHANGE ANYTHING! You would still have to go to work tomorrow. And people would still be starving all over the world. The UFO’s either better do something positive or be ignored. Cause so far I’m not falling for this new religion.- Funny how the UFO’s, much like our government, feel the need to be secretive for our own good. I? wonder why? (wink, wink)
It is obvious that number one, Billy, even in his finest hour, could never make a trash can last for 5 decades. Two, the actual trash can lid is not taken up close, and I didn’t notice an appendage on that photo. Three, it looks as though the appendage on the Wedding Cake photo was added later. Four, Billy didn’t have the advantage of PhotoShop, because when those pictures were taken, he had NO WAY to create these images. His actual pictures were taken with a 2nd generation, old fashioned 35mm camera. Five, Billy refused to travel and leave his farm, so any photos that were tampered with, were done so by those that ’said’ they would handle his case. Billy neither had options or money available to him, to create these drastic changes in photography. Six, if you watch the YouTube videos long enough, you will find the one of Billy, early in the morning, with his movie camera on the tri-pod doing close-ups of the tree where the beam ship was stationary. It was ‘not’ a model or miniature; that is obvious from the distance then the zoom to close up. People just need to actually look for this stuff and quit believe everyone else.
The big wedding cake in front of the building has a carpet tack on level two in the front missing between the balls The teradon is too similar. And the two light sources on the golden balls pretty much relieve our worrying about any advanced civilization trying to propel these toys through time or space. The magicians’use of photographic trickery could not even seduce juveniles. Go ahead on back and finish your bible.