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An alien with boobies (and floating torsos)

Ladies and gentlemen, behold the “Monna Lisa” EBE, “humanoid, female, 1.65 meter. Genitalized, haired, six fingers (we guess that mathematics are based on a dozen). Function; pilot, piloting device fixed to fingers and eyes, no clothes.” Wow, an alien with “no clothes” as a function.

This comes thanks to “William Rutledge”, the brave astronaut of the secret Apollo 20 mission. He goes on: “we had to cut two cables connected to the nose. No nostril. Leonov unfixed the eyes device (you’ll see that in the video). concretions of blood or bio liquid erupted and froze from the mouth, nose, eyes and some parts of the body. Some parts of the body were in unusual good condition, (hair) and the skin was protected by a thin transparent protection layer. As we told to mission control, condition seemed not dead not alive. We had no medical background or experience, but Leonov and I used a test, we fixed our bio equipment on the EBE, and telemetry received by surgeon (Mission Control meds) was positive.”

Just ignore for a moment the fact that the video clearly shows a nose and the hair is in no “good” condition. You wanted to see alien mammary glands first. As I do. Here they are (around 1:46):

Should we proceed to our usual ordinary investigation? As a matter of fact, many people have already noted interesting things about these videos, we just have to present them. Continue reading for more.

First, a little background. As you know, there was no Apollo 20 mission, the last one was Apollo 17. NASA did originally plan for such a mission, but it was cancelled as the designated Saturn V rocket was used to launch Skylab. “Rutledge” claims the mission went on nevertheless, with a secret launch from Vanderberg AFB, but you would have to be lunatic to swallow that there could ever be a “secret” Saturn V launch. If there’s one thing that is practically impossible to hide, that’s a Saturn V launch. And a Moon rocket launched from Vanderberg would have to have a different configuration, otherwise there would be inconvenient details like the first stage crashing in Nevada.

That’s probably why Rutledge publicized footage of this launch, but it’s very poor, clearly computer generated.

Then we have the fact that astronaut “William Rutledge” doesn’t exist, and the man behind it all is French artist Thierry Speth. He was linked with “retiredafb”, the original alias publicizing the videos, through his shopping for Apollo paraphernalia and Carey Lowell nudes on ebay. If you look at Speth’s website, you can find curious works like these:

Bigger boobies. Same lips. Clay sculpture.

But the smoking-gun evidence of hoax can be seen on the second video in this post. As “bishop1971” commented on Youtube, at around 1:15 you can see a very bad compositing blunder in the video. “Leonov”, the astronaut in the footage, suddenly becomes a floating torso, as you can see the background moving below his waist. Below, a frame of the crude error, note the background below Leonov’s waist, but check for yourself on the video:

That video was actually created mixing at least three different sources: one of the “Mona Lisa” alien, a clay sculpture, the background inside the Lunar Module, a nice computer generated video, and finally the footage of “Leonov”. But that final footage only had Leonov from the waist up, and Speth made a very bad error on compositing — “mixing” — everything together. There’s no doubt that’s a hoax, unless you believe on flying torsos.

Speth is a talented, though misdirected artist. His previous footage of an alien spaceship that Apollo 20 found on the Moon was also very good, as well as some of his other videos. On the other hand, some like the previous linked Apollo 20 launch and his cities on the Moon are honestly ridiculous. Check them on his new address.

If you take all of them with a very big lump of salt, they are all quite fun as fiction. As Philipe Kling David noted, that would be “the first alien boobie video in history”. I’m always with the classic ones of Mathilda May on Lifeforce, but these clay ones are amusing.

And much better looking than the previous notorious clay alien in ufology, the Caponi interdimensionally ugly baby (in Spanish, with photos).

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  1. graham April 16th, 2008 5:41 am

    if you at the first 25 sec of the film the man with the camera is tossing the camera up and down if this was in space the camera would not move like that and he would be able to let it go

  2. ClearLight April 18th, 2008 8:38 pm

    Yes, you are right probably.
    Anyway if you know A.Leonov, you can’t identify him like the man in the film. Is Rutledge/Speth ??

  3. Larry perkins April 24th, 2008 10:08 pm

    As optimistical as I could have ever been it would not be possible to me to see any similiarity between the sculptures and the supposed EBE in the movie. Anyway this Speth guy should be a kind of ‘stupid millionaire’ to spend so much money and a lot of time on such a story…

  4. ClearLight April 25th, 2008 11:05 pm

    Really Larry ? On the site anybody makes money, see details please.

  5. Larry perkins April 26th, 2008 8:41 pm

    Hello Clearlight,

    I think most of you supposed ‘debunkers’ navigate in fantasies all the time…

    In the Internet debunking has turned to be a religion ‘played’ by fanatics…! I sincerely hope you’re not like that stupid german guy in YT and Revver whom is desperately trying to prove his silly ideas about the case.

    In fact I do not believe this story for many other reasons.

    But to relate it these alleged resemblances is far way from reasonable and I wonder when this Speth guy will start sueing some of you…

  6. Mori April 27th, 2008 4:04 am

    Larry, the connection between Speth and “retiredafb” is established.

    Coincidentally Speth also creates sculptures of female torsos and faces — which have that clay color and not actual hair.

    None of this is fantasy. If you know of other reasons not to believe this story, feel free to mention them. Other elements that could support the story would also be interesting.

    But merely stating that Speth’s sculptures on his website are not identical to the alien does not add much to the discussion.

  7. ClearLight April 27th, 2008 10:38 pm

    “Some of you” ?!?!
    I am searching the truth, but in your mind there are only debunkers and believers. It’s not a good discussion, I stop here. Sorry Larry.

  8. Larry perkins April 28th, 2008 4:15 am

    Hello Mori,

    there are thousands of plastic artists whom creates torsos and faces everyday everywhere in the world (and some of them are much more similar to the supposed EBE ‘Mona Lisa’ than the ones you have posted – I could recommend a visit to Peru, Bolivia or Colombia to find many ‘relatives’ of ‘Mona Lisa’ for instance).

    But the main counterproof of this story is the ‘Mona Lisa’ herself: ask an exobiologist (a real scientist) what is the possibility that a mammal alien species has ever existed in any other part of this or other galaxy… And still a mammal alien species having exactly the same body features as the human sapiens body.

    Don’t you see whoever is behind this is trying to discredit Darwinism ?!

    They are trying to tell us that all mammals and the human beings would have never existed except for such an alien intervention ? But the problem is that at 1.5 billion yrs ago there were only monocell lifeforms on Earth. Multicell lifeforms have begun only 0.5 billion yrs ago. They should have intervened much later than this to modify multicell Earth creatures’ DNA to develop on such an ‘adaptive’ way to be the supposed ‘alien-like’ lifeform.

    Suppose they have started to intervene a few million years ago. Then all human species (sapiens, erectus, habilis, etc.) and their predecessors (autralopithecus included) would have been alien experiments either ?! Is it possible ?! Why not succeding at first ?!

    And what to say about our common origins with the other mammals ? Would have these aliens introduced all mammals since many million years ago ?! Why not going straight to the most intelligent mammal species (human sapiens) from the beginning ?!

    So it just doesn’t make any sense…! No doubt this is a hoax, but a very malicious one! And I’m positive this is not made by just one ‘very talented’ artist… Sure there is a team working on it and they may have been very well paid for that. Remember there are many creationist societies in the U.S. and a lot of these people are within the U.S. Government…

  9. Mori April 28th, 2008 11:41 pm

    Fine, Larry, but please follow the links in the note, because there’s this one:

    Where “retiredafb” is identified as Speth. That’s why we’re pointing our fingers particularly to him.

    There could be more people involved, more elaborate plans, but so far, there’s only evidence of one misdirected artist. Search our site for the works of Philipe Kling David, a Brazilian artist, who also creates such works — alone — but identifies his pieces as fiction.

  10. Larry Perkins April 29th, 2008 10:38 pm

    Yes, Mori, I knew about this supposed connection, but (i) there were many ‘retiredafb’ nicks appearing after April 1st 2007 (first videos publication at YT), even in relation sites; (ii) the only connection depicted in the screens linking ‘retiredafb’ to ‘[email protected]’ appeared on April 5th); and (iii) someone has already said the name of the supposed guy is, in fact, ‘William Thierry Rutledge’ – but to me it is just an allusion to ‘Will T. Riker’ from Star Trek anyway…

    About the art: there are many pieces of popular art you may find in the streets of small villages from Amazonia (made by local artizans) with the very same look of ‘Mona Lisa’. I guess this EBE may be peruvian born…

  11. Mori May 6th, 2008 5:28 am

    You do have a point there, Larry. It could be a coincidence, but it would be a hell of a coincidence, as Speth did show interest on Apollo and also makes clay sculptures (as the Monna Lisa EBE seems to be made of, at least to me).

    In any event, that “flying torso Leonov” is conclusive evidence that that video, at least, is a crude hoax. All the other related videos more or less smell fake, but the flying torso is clearly so.

  12. Larry perkins May 7th, 2008 2:45 am

    Dear Mori,

    1- like many others I could not be able to see the floating torso of the astronaut you have mentioned. Only a slight move from the supposed EBE. The rest is just nothing but fantasy to me. The upper and the lower part of the astronaut’s body are moving perfectly coupled all the footage long and it is the cameraman whom is moving but keeping the focus on him (that’s why the scenario seems to be moving but it is nothing but an optical effect). So I do not accept this point definetely.

    2- Maybe you have never been to South America and other exotic places in the world and that’s why you are so impressed with Speth’s sculpture (which seems indeed quite poor to me)… You would be astonished with so many relatives of Mona Lisa you can find elsewhere.

    3- And I cannot recognize that astronaut as Leonov either… Why the hell has it been assumed to be Leonov? Did anyone ask Leonov about it?!

  13. Manny June 3rd, 2008 5:56 am

    Hi Kentaro!
    I forgot to tell you in our last correspondence in re caret, that Thierry is photographed nearly 60,0000 pics of steel/iron smelting plant. Tou will see one of his pics as this ore fallen to ground, creating a very lunar landscape. he also helped Anne schroeder do a sgort french film on mines in the 90 s, and what would a surface of a mine look like. I also trace spaceheroes.org to the Laude aerospace firm “owned” by jerry Harthcock and another texas partner. What is fascinating to me that the ip at spaceheroes was same last I checked to Egrd.net owned by nikola romanski who pushes the esoteric phyiscs and antigravity. Nikola also is a kooky but loveable character in the Caret drama, pushing his science in relation to it. But what triggered something in my head, was that another pro caret expert went to the OM. his name was jim. and he said how nice and believable the drones are. he should know. he is VP of a smelting factory.
    Boom! bara Bing!
    It is conceivable being that Thierry and his crew, and it is a crew, couold do the caret hoax as well very easy, they are experts in 3d composting and photography, and know the terminology very very well. what we have Mori, I think, is a cotton gin for hoaxes here. That produce these things like some writers write a movie script.
    Some will even plant witnesses on mufon to say, ohhh I remember I saw something like that 5 years ago, or yesterday, or today. Very easy. I saw one on mufon for teddybear on may 25 2008
    So the system to repor easy to use to fabricate history, when a photograph or movie is “leaked” on youfool :)

    When c2c or LMH or other pick it up, I guarantee you will never get to talk to thewitness, and ask questions, will generally find websites ready to accommodate them. I remember Bison16 was from france and he was all over the place putting links in french spanish dutch german back in early may. this is very odd.
    Nikola also can be found giving advice about wiki on the isaaccaret dot com site. small entry..but telling only to me as I look at nikola a very long time.
    But any way with the smelter thing that really has me thinking now. just how big is this outfit.

    Cheers and kudos on your excellent work my friend

  14. Rembrant June 9th, 2008 11:05 am

    Just take a look at Video 2 frame 2.52 and tell us what you see.

    Do we see the same thing
    Is this the same.

    What do you thing where from came that Solar Blanket?

  15. Jill June 20th, 2008 6:48 pm

    Not only is this a hoax, but it’s an expensive publicity stunt for a future massively multiplayer online RPG based on a race of benevolent hybrid Aztec/Alien people.. It’s set to be released in, wanna guess? 2012.

  16. Nikola July 1st, 2008 8:33 pm

    Since you are dead certain that I am related to these hoaxer and RPG people, I see no reason to share anything with the world. You seem to know it all so it would be no big loss. There is nothing kooky nor lovable about enmities. I do not feel embraced, I feel very shunned. Just a few more straws on my back, and this camel is going to broken back. In your quest to kill the drone story once and for all, you are dealing some serious blows to true creativity and invention. My name isnt on any guest list so why would i REALLY give a snarfblatt about anyone? Seems like lately all I have gotten is spit in the face. And you wonder why such things remain secretive?????? Look behind you!

  17. Nikola July 1st, 2008 8:37 pm

    There has been more negative words all around the web than positive ones… I am just like everyone else…..pound me down enough and see what you get out of me after the damage is done.

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  19. Luka September 11th, 2009 1:33 pm

    Guys, this hoax is completely and thoroughly debunked on http://www.alien-ufos.com/EBE-recoverd-moon-ship-t20829.html
    forum. Guys done great job investigating this videos.
    Take time to go through.

  20. Straniero October 30th, 2009 8:55 am

    It seems that the videos have been removed…

    Is not possible to recover them?

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  22. auagate March 19th, 2012 9:25 pm

    Hi Mori,

    Quick questions:

    Who the hell is Thierry Speth? Never existed? Any photos or news can prove his existence? Otherwise anyone can claim he/she is Thierry Speth without facing the public!!!

    Why the name in the picture(http://i10.tinypic.com/4v7kzyp.jpg) of the youtube user is thierry(retiredafb),while the same account in this one(http://www.angelismarriti.it/images/RETIREDAFB-GREMBERGEN.jpg)is (retiredafb)William?

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