Comments on: Ancient jets? The amazing flying beings http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/ Extraordinary claims. Ordinary investigations. Sun, 05 Feb 2012 05:49:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: hmmm http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/comment-page-1/#comment-5604 hmmm Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:18:10 +0000 http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/#comment-5604 Looks like flying gurnards to me. Looks like flying gurnards to me.

]]> By: Christopher Gabehart http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/comment-page-1/#comment-5008 Christopher Gabehart Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:54:56 +0000 http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/#comment-5008 What makes people think man did not have aircraft thousands of years ago? Man is devolving and getting stupider.The more knowledge we get,the more stupider.Men were wiser in the ancient days,with less knowledge.Dont sell the human race short because of DUURRwin. What makes people think man did not have aircraft thousands of years ago? Man is devolving and getting stupider.The more knowledge we get,the more stupider.Men were wiser in the ancient days,with less knowledge.Dont sell the human race short because of DUURRwin.

]]> By: Cliff Wheeler http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/comment-page-1/#comment-5007 Cliff Wheeler Mon, 04 Oct 2010 02:13:01 +0000 http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/#comment-5007 I’m looking at this from the point of view of standing in the sandals of one of the people that lived back then. Could it be a flying fish, bird, or humming bird? Of course. But, there is the chance that some of those little golden trinkets are representations of modern aircraft that was seen by the person or persons who made them. How many times have we read stories about people who leave home to drive somewhere that may take 3 or 4 hours and they arrive to their destination an hour earlier than expected. I know of a few of these stories. Or, aircraft that have navigation problems in certain areas around the globe, they vanish off the radar then come back. Yes, many stories. So, how unlikely is it that an aircraft can travel through time and space for a split second, appear over head and then vanish. Ancient people were familiar with the sounds around them, and anything that was out of the ordinary would draw immediate attention. If a sound was over head, they would look up, just as we would if the sound was not normal. And the ancients had a good eye for detail. You have to remember that they can only relate to a new object by comparing it to things they have already seen in their world around them such as birds or flying fish. So, if we lived back then and were standing outside and a loud roar came over head and we looked up and saw this large glistening silver object fly by, We might think that it was the king of the flying fish, and make an gold or silver representation of it. I’m looking at this from the point of view of standing in the sandals of one of the people that lived back then. Could it be a flying fish, bird, or humming bird? Of course. But, there is the chance that some of those little golden trinkets are representations of modern aircraft that was seen by the person or persons who made them. How many times have we read stories about people who leave home to drive somewhere that may take 3 or 4 hours and they arrive to their destination an hour earlier than expected. I know of a few of these stories. Or, aircraft that have navigation problems in certain areas around the globe, they vanish off the radar then come back. Yes, many stories. So, how unlikely is it that an aircraft can travel through time and space for a split second, appear over head and then vanish. Ancient people were familiar with the sounds around them, and anything that was out of the ordinary would draw immediate attention. If a sound was over head, they would look up, just as we would if the sound was not normal. And the ancients had a good eye for detail. You have to remember that they can only relate to a new object by comparing it to things they have already seen in their world around them such as birds or flying fish. So, if we lived back then and were standing outside and a loud roar came over head and we looked up and saw this large glistening silver object fly by, We might think that it was the king of the flying fish, and make an gold or silver representation of it.

]]> By: Zane Nobbs http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/comment-page-1/#comment-5005 Zane Nobbs Sun, 03 Oct 2010 23:30:26 +0000 http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/#comment-5005 Working with models of these little aircraft (replicas from the musuem) no matter what material they are made from, when you balance them at the mid-point the nose (head) does equate to the remainder of the aircraft (center of gravity) just like modern jets. As for various "heads" on them, if you look at the island cultures of the South Pacific after WWII, considering that some pilots put shark-heads, cat-heads or others on their aircraft, this would explain this variation. And the little swirls on the leading edges of the wings, not decorative at all, but consistent with air patterns in wind-tunnel models and in operational conditions (as per NASA commentary). Even discounting all of the above, what happend to the mountain tops? Where did all of that rock and dirt go? We can't do that even today! Why runways? Where did the melted glass globules come from? Why can you only see the giant drawings from so high up? Depending on the materials used, if you leave even a modern aircraft unattended, it will deterioriate in a matter of decades down to a structure that does not resemble an aircraft at all. So, not surprisingly, after several millenia, the remains of the actual flying craft could be dust. As for needing factories and massive materials, perhaps each aircraft was unique and the builders never heard of an industrial revolution or mass production (much like the Wright brothers or Mr. Dumont)? In the ancient Hindu literature Vimanas (ancient aircraft in one intrepretation) were only for the very priviledged and constructed of wood with a gold type cover. It may be that the ancient civilizations were more in harmony with earth than modern man. Who knows? All we have left are the pyramids around the world and these little gold replicas. Are we so arrogant as to assume we are the epitomy of mankind? Even the Bible says "What is has been before and shall be again." Sorry, can't remember the exact verse. Pop (deceased) used to quote it to me when we talked of things like this. Working with models of these little aircraft (replicas from the musuem) no matter what material they are made from, when you balance them at the mid-point the nose (head) does equate to the remainder of the aircraft (center of gravity) just like modern jets. As for various “heads” on them, if you look at the island cultures of the South Pacific after WWII, considering that some pilots put shark-heads, cat-heads or others on their aircraft, this would explain this variation. And the little swirls on the leading edges of the wings, not decorative at all, but consistent with air patterns in wind-tunnel models and in operational conditions (as per NASA commentary).

Even discounting all of the above, what happend to the mountain tops? Where did all of that rock and dirt go? We can’t do that even today! Why runways? Where did the melted glass globules come from? Why can you only see the giant drawings from so high up?

Depending on the materials used, if you leave even a modern aircraft unattended, it will deterioriate in a matter of decades down to a structure that does not resemble an aircraft at all. So, not surprisingly, after several millenia, the remains of the actual flying craft could be dust. As for needing factories and massive materials, perhaps each aircraft was unique and the builders never heard of an industrial revolution or mass production (much like the Wright brothers or Mr. Dumont)? In the ancient Hindu literature Vimanas (ancient aircraft in one intrepretation) were only for the very priviledged and constructed of wood with a gold type cover. It may be that the ancient civilizations were more in harmony with earth than modern man. Who knows? All we have left are the pyramids around the world and these little gold replicas. Are we so arrogant as to assume we are the epitomy of mankind? Even the Bible says “What is has been before and shall be again.” Sorry, can’t remember the exact verse. Pop (deceased) used to quote it to me when we talked of things like this.

]]> By: Scott http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/comment-page-1/#comment-5004 Scott Sun, 03 Oct 2010 20:40:50 +0000 http://forgetomori.com/2008/skepticism/ancient-jets-the-amazing-flying-beings/#comment-5004 Great article, well written. Why are so many crackheads unable to accept the clear convincing evidence that you provide...and instead cling hold of the irrational explanation. It is so shocking and sad. All of the examples above have faces...! Great article, well written. Why are so many crackheads unable to accept the clear convincing evidence that you provide…and instead cling hold of the irrational explanation. It is so shocking and sad. All of the examples above have faces…!

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