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A nicely hoaxed crude hoax

This video is not impressive at all (the previous balloon was far more interesting), but try to guess what it is. A digital hoax? Or simply a suspended lamp?I vouched for the suspended lamp, as the wires could have been obliterated by the background sky, and the match of focus and general appearance seemed very nice and real. For a lamp, that is. The fact the “UFO” almost doesn’t move was also a factor.

But then, I’m not an expert, and neither had I dedicated much time to it. Because I was wrong, and this was a digital hoax after all. Even when I was told so, I had my doubts. Even after seeing these screenshots:

I still had some doubts. Perhaps they created this to fool the skeptics, when it was a suspended lamp! It had to be!

Until I spent some more minutes staring at it and realized the time stamp and footage on it are nowhere to be seen in the publicized video. This is indeed a screenshot of the creation of the footage. I was wrong.

So, this is a quite nice digital hoax which at first sight may look like a crude lamp hoax. These are confusing times.

This case is actually developing as Mexican ufologists Jaime Maussán and Ana Luisa Cid are arguing over it. The screenshots were publicized by Tachi.


UPDATE: The author of the videos not only denies he hoaxed them, he actually claims those screenshots were hoaxed. And he may be telling the truth, at least for the last part.

One usually assumes the person who created the video is the one to post it first on Youtube. And Mauricio Ruiz was the one to post it first. Yet, he denies he hoaxed them. He claims that was a real event. Then, we have someone who sent, anonymously, those screen captures. But no more details from this presumed other person.

Things do not fit.

As I wrote above, I initially suspected this video was of a simple lamp, or some other real object. It’s a VERY good footage, if you ignore the fact the alleged UFO almost doesn’t move. The focus, movements, flares, all is very fine. That can very well be a real object, if not a real UFO.

Alejandro Franz also thinks so, and he even points to some poles that can be seen on other footage from Ruiz. One of Ruiz’s previous “UFO” footages involved simply filming clouds. Capturing a lamp (or something) suspended would fit that. A sophisticated 3d hoax wouldn’t.

What made me accept those screenshots was the time stamp. As I wrote, “the time stamp [on the] footage [is] nowhere to be seen in the publicized video“. But then, in retrospect, I realize that Ruiz seems to have uploaded and then removed a lot of videos to Youtube. Someone may have downloaded one of his other videos and created those screen shots.

So, he may be telling the truth when he says those screen captures were hoaxed.

And if they were hoaxed, then we don’t have smoking gun evidence that the video is a hoax. You would have to consider that it just have all the signs of a common lamp suspended with a string. Probably so, but no definite proof, as the author claims it was a real event, and the original video haven’t been analyzed.

As soon as I discover any additional evidence, or otherwise, if no new conclusive evidence comes from this case, I will make a new post clearly admitting that I was initially right, but was wrong on accepting those screenshots. In short, that I was wrong.

For now, I hope this update keeps people… updated. What made me update it was this discussion on ATS (a forum from which it seems I was banned, I don’t know why).

I was waiting for more definite evidence to come from the case to post a correction, but even if I’m not sure if I was right, wrong, or right and then wrong, one thing I can assure you: I try to be right. I’m no mad evil debunker.

Of course, that’s what a mad evil debunker would tell you. But I’m not one.

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  1. Peter May 17th, 2008 10:42 am

    Stupid hoax. So basic it is clear to see that the maker is even not prolific in Photoshop.

  2. Burt May 17th, 2008 2:05 pm

    Sorry real difficult to impossible to get the camera shake of what ever that is and the environment to coincide like it does try doing that in photo shop yourself before you speak, send us your reveal!! Oh ya stay away from your string theory too please. This article is to quick too judge, do your homework first, it helps when you make comments like this.

  3. Tachi May 17th, 2008 2:14 pm

    Kentaro Thanks for your reference to my blog, this goes for long, have received more catches and a video that shows the falsity of the case, even when catches are not sufficient to prove the falsity, there is a witness and hope that his statement soon.

  4. Toxic_Rhino May 17th, 2008 6:47 pm

    I talked to the guy who made this video when it first came out on youtube, I was searching “UFO” in you tube under the most recent category, and found this video, I wrote to the guy about it and he gave me a reply:

    What he said:
    At first I was feeding my dogs, and I saw something dark up in the sky and I thought it was a bird or something. When I noticed it was round and odd, I ran inside my house and got my video camera and took a few minutes of video. It than ran out or quit on me, I think because I had used it before for EASTER family get together and the battery juice was low.
    Original Message:

    What I said first:
    > Iv seen a few things in the sky but none that close up… Did you see it with your naked eye or did …

  5. stargate22 May 18th, 2008 12:41 am

    That’s real…the real ones usually just sit and hover…Real Deal! I’ve seen enough of them..

  6. cfr7009 May 18th, 2008 1:36 am

    Notice, when the photographer pans out, how the field of view expands only below the object. Would not the average novice tend to keep the target in the center of the frame? Why would he not want to pan out above the object? Hmmmm!?!?

  7. me May 18th, 2008 4:31 am

    Why do people fake these? It leaves no credibility to the real footage of actual ufo’s. This only hurts the cause.

  8. Jose Luis Santana September 19th, 2008 6:58 pm

    Why do people fake it??

    Popularity of course.

    What to say about the “Chad’s drone” case?

    100% fake

  9. Jose Luis Santana September 19th, 2008 7:06 pm

    Well…I must to reckon…this video is damn good though

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