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“Michael Jackson” ghost haunts Muhammad Ali?

Ghost? Michael Jackson?
Hi, I’m a boxing enthusiast. I was browsing youtube and found a video of the famous fight between George Foreman and Muhammad Ali, “Rumble in the jungle”. Well, at a point in the video (5:45~46 to be exact) a bizarre figure appeared in the background. I was curious, it’s certainly some problem that appeared due to the dozens of edits the image must have passed through… the eyes are even shining… or is it indeed some sort of hoax? Does anyone have an explanation?”

Asked Luis Fernando. The face is indeed bizarre, and I found it interesting enough to post here. And I honestly and unfortunately don’t have a clear explanation for the image. It could be a hoax, a bizarre face added digitally and recently to the scene, as what we assume would be the black hair around the face is actually transparent.

On the other hand, the are some things that interact with the image – passing both in front and behind the “face” – which suggest that it was not such a bad editing job. And also suggest that perhaps it’s not a hoax, but pareidolia. Even if I have no idea of what could have looked like a face with glowing eyes. Certainly the height of that face is not right, it’s at the height of everyone else’s waists. Perhaps a bag? I don’t know.

I compiled an animated GIF with the relevant section after the jump, but have no further comments. Do you have an idea of what could this be? Or is this uninteresting? Do share your thoughts.


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  2. platinum April 22nd, 2009 7:16 pm

    its a shirt . the Last 2 seconds it is visible, it continues to turn nd yuh qet a qlimps of it from the side . yuh see the face curve meaning the face on the shirt is up to the womans boobs which makes the facr curve. when the face is clearly visible its because shes facinq the camera nd when she turns away yuh can see the curvaqe in her boobs !

  3. nallo (Andrew Ranallo) May 8th, 2009 9:08 pm

    @patiomensch that michael jackson ghost face thing is so scary, finally saw it full screen http://tinyurl.com/ddgqmb

  4. Moonwalker Bird | forgetomori June 28th, 2009 6:02 pm

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  5. Marla Webb June 28th, 2009 10:55 pm

    I am a Christian who use to study metaphysics. The spirit world is very real and can be dangerous. Just as good and bad live, so it is in death. We can get away from bad people (most of the time), but how do you get away from a bad spirit? Which is why opening yourself up to spiritism is dangerous. The Bible says to not call upon the dead. It wouldn’t say it, if it was not possible. Some people who have a strong sense about themselves leave an impression on people. Like a good movie or song that stays with you. People dead or alive can do this too. As odd as this may sound, I have been sensing MJ around me since he died. I think he might have been out of body traveling before he died (drugs can open the door too). I feel flattered, but know he has very few people who are in a place to sense the dead (he had nowhere else to go. I had a near death experience 30 years ago and it opened a door that is closed most of the time due to choice. The devil can make things exciting and us curious,why else would we want what he has to offer? I know I am to stay focused on this life and serving Christ and obeying his Word. I will pray for Michael’s spirit.

  6. M July 2nd, 2009 12:00 am

    wow. u people are nuts. and that clip is fake

  7. Tassi D. July 3rd, 2009 5:40 pm

    You need to take this image question from 1974 {?} down off the net. Now that Michael has passed,it’s so—-sad.
    And it just makes it all sadder.
    It’s too eerie. Let the King of Pop rest. O.k.?

    Usually people claim to see Marilyn Monroe’s ghost.

  8. Chad July 6th, 2009 5:35 pm

    Hear Michael one last…..

  9. […] If you don’t want to wait for the video to load, visit Forgetomori’s blog, where he has an animated GIF of the relevant section. Michael Jackson face appears in Muhammed Ali video: hoax or pareidolia? […]

  10. jj murrayf July 24th, 2009 2:41 pm

    the eyes are to high to be on someones teeshirt

  11. ninjadza (ninjadza) August 8th, 2009 6:28 pm

    RT: @debasispradhan: “Michael Jackson”ghost travels back in time&haunts Muhammad Ali? http://tinyurl.com/ddgqmb << Hoax or Pareidolia?

  12. Robyne August 15th, 2009 5:08 am

    This is a morbidly delusional thread. The video is of an event that happened in 1974. Logic dictates that the image in question could not possibly be Michael Jackson who was only 16 years old and looked nothing like he did at the time of his passing.

  13. Joe Baloney August 19th, 2009 9:29 am

    Funnily enough I was there that night, as was Michael Jackson. Indeed I was lucky enough to have tea with him and a couple of his friends, Napolean Bonaparte and James Dean. I didn’t realise they were big fight fans, and I distinctly remember that when I pointed this out to them they laughed and laughed, and then one of them, Jimmy I think he called himself, said, “Boy, mister, you don’t know the half of it.” They then started going on about food and recipes and things, so I left. If you go to 6.05 on the video and concentrate on the top left of the screen, you can clearly see the three of them queuing up for bagels.

  14. […] call shenanigans. The clip below comes by way of the always-excellent Boing Boing, via ghost site Forgetomori. The video is of Ali and Foreman’s “Rumble in the Jungle.” Fast forward to the […]

  15. Schuyler April 18th, 2010 8:58 pm

    That is CREEPY. I do believe in ghosts, but the likelihood of a face, just like Michael Jackson appearing like that is slim. Still, who would put that in the middle of a boxing video, and not try to publicize it? Bizzare, and SCARY!

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  17. Sir Manley Johnson May 30th, 2010 11:09 am

    Let’s see if I have this straight. Some people think that the most likely explanation is that Michael Jackson’s spirit traveled into the past and materialized in the crowd for a few seconds at a boxing match while looking directly at a camera. Yes it’s so obvious it speaks for itself doesn’t it.

  18. Margreet July 18th, 2010 4:07 pm

    Ghost or not, the nose is too big to be Michael’s.

  19. Brian October 9th, 2010 2:40 pm

    I’m just split on this one….I dont know if its a real guy, or a digital fake. My first impression is that it is a digital fake…the movement just does not look right. The head just seems to kinda float past…..very odd…However the more I look at it, the more I think it just MIGHT be a real person…the real determining factor though is the eyes, and how they glow….I know it was suggested that they caught a camera flash, but that is not possible. Human eyes only glow for an instant in such a situation, and can only be seen in a photgraph…not a moving image, generally they do not show up that bright, however….usually just causing the familiar “red eye” look. The only exception is if some sort of night vision camera is used…then they can indeed glow just like an animals. Of course Night vision was not used here…In fact I dont even think it existed…or if it did, I dont think it was publically available, but only something the military would have. But further thought on that matter is irrevelant since it is obviously not night vision. There is another possibility, of course…glasses, which catch the light. I can not personally make out any glasses…So for me I have to go with digitaly manipulated film, but of course It might just be hard to make the glasses out..so I’ll say…Im 85% sure its digital manipulation. It would seem this would be an easy thing to prove one way or another….this fight is obviously a historic moment, and I am quite sure that many people have this footage at home on a DVD, or an old VHS tape. So hopefully someone will dig it out, and prove me wrong, or prove me right…..oh yeah…I guess it could also be a real time traveling Micheal Jackson ghost too. I’ll put that down as a 3% possibility…. Normally I’d say 1% or even a fraction of a percent for something like that…..but it is Micheal Jackson, and he has always been kind of a weirdness magnet…so….

  20. michael jackson June 26th, 2011 8:04 pm

    i love my fans! ylove youuuu!!!

  21. one January 18th, 2012 8:24 pm

    LOL that doesn’t look a thing like Michael Jackson at any time in his career. I always heard people will use his name just to garner attention without one scrap of reason and now I believe it’s true. If anything that looks like the lady by the well in The Ring. Either way, clearly it was someone in the audience–they are facing backward and then turn their head foreward. End of mystery. (btw, get a life!)

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