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Time Traveler Caught in Museum Photo?

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“Reopening of the South Fork Bridge after flood in Nov. 1940. 1941 (?)”

It’s the short description for the photograph shown at the virtual Bralorne Pioneer Museum, from British Columbia, Canada. The image can be seen specifically on this page (scroll down to the middle), among other items of the online exhibit. Did you notice anything out of place? Or perhaps, out of time?

The man with what appears to be very modern sunglasses seems to be wearing a stamped T-shirt with a nice sweater, all the while holding a portable compact camera!

Internet people reached to the obvious conclusion: it’s a time traveller caught on camera on 1940! Finally, we have proof!

If the story seems straight out of a movie and the photo is in itself a great funny find, the most amusing thing i came up with while looking into this – as an Internet person, on the Internet – was the reply for a skeptical, or perhaps somewhat cynical comment on how spurious it would seem the idea that a time traveler would want to visit the reopening of a bridge in some small town in Canada.

Read this on Doc Brown’s voice: “Of course, because we know nothing happened there right? But if we are considering time travel, how can we know if in some other timeline something historical happened right there?”

Indeed! Once you consider time travel, everything changes. But before writing Hollywood scripts, let’s get back to reality and ask again: is the photo evidence of a time traveller?

The source

As noted, the image is indeed available through the official website for Canada’s museums. It was part of the exhibit “Their Past Lives Here” from Bralorne-Pioneer, available to the public since 2004. It was put online since February this year, perhaps before that. And the peculiar “time traveller” image was only noted as such in the end of March, when it was linked on main websites such as Above Top Secret and FARK.

Given the source, we would assume the photo is authentic, and correctly dated to c.1940. Indeed, an Error Level Analysis suggests the image was not digitally tampered with, or at least that if it was, the author was smart enough to normalize the error across the whole thing.  It’s a good job, if it was a job. And again, given the source, we would assume it was not a job.

So, how do we explain the man out of time?

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Not quite out of time

As members of the ATS, like “Outkast Searcher”, diligently noted, despite looking very modern the man’s outfit and even glasses and camera could be found in the 1940s. Below, similar sunglasses used by actress Barbara Stanwyck on the movie “Double Indemnity” (1944):

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The outfit could also be found 70 years ago. Being used as we are to our contemporary fashion, we look at the man and assume he’s wearing a stamped T-shirt, something that would be indeed out of place (or time). But if you look carefully, you can see that he’s actually wearing (or could as well be wearing) a sweatshirt. And sweatshirts with bordered emblems were not uncommon in the 1940s – in fact you can find those in other photos from the same exhibit.

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The sweater he also uses seems to be hand knitted, with buttons on the front. Something that was definitely available at the time, if he had some kind grandma perhaps.

Finally, despite some comments about the camera lens being too big for the time, too compact, it looks like a Kodak Folding Pocket model, available since the beginning of the 20th century.

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That is: even taking this photo for granted, as depicting an authentic scene, a real man with his curious glasses and outfit in Canada 70 years ago, there’s nothing that can be seen that is actually out of place or time. He looks different from other people, but it has already been suggested that he’s using welding goggles and a glove.

This is not much of a proof of time travel, and more like evidence of the cyclic nature of fashion. These days, even a beggar can be mistaken for a trendy fashion model. Keep reading for more into this and other time travel stories.


Not quite new

Despite being an awesome photo and story, the Canadian time traveller is not the first on the genre. One of the most famous Internet stories deals with Andrew Carlssin, a man from the year 2256 who appeared in Wall Street on 2003. It was published as a news item on Yahoo!, but few people noticed it was in the Entertainment section and that the source was the Weekly World News. In case you haven’t checked the WWN, you should do it now.

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There’s also the story of John Titor, an elaborate story where a time traveller joined several online discussion forums! On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a dog, but if you tell elaborate stories about being a time traveller, you may just create an enduring digital myth. Alas, time itself took care of disproving all of John Titor’s stories about the future. Or perhaps that’s a nice thing, since the future Titor invented was pretty gloom.

And some years ago, the photo of a man with a Mohawk hairstyle at a festival before the punk movement made the style popular was also reason for buzz. I remember seeing it on BoingBoing, but now I can’t find it! Was it erased by the time travellers? Will I forget about it soon? In any event, I also remember that people quickly pointed out that although the hairstyle was popularized by punks, it was not unseen before that, dating even from before the Mohawk tribe.

Time travel is an amazing idea, but so far it’s all speculation, fiction, hoax and misunderstandings.

Case closed?

As a matter of fact, no! Despite being clear that the image, even if authentic, would not be evidence of an out of time man, it’s still possible it could be a hoax. After all, photoshop jobs mixing modern figures in old photos are not that complex. A series that has been popular the past few weeks placed contemporary super-heroes in historical photos:

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Is it possible that an elaborate hoax could have included a manipulated photograph among the items of a museum exhibit, only to have it put online and finally exposed as “time travel proof” later? Well, it would be quite an elaborate hoax, but it is possible.

Let’s look again at the photo. Pay attention to the right arm of the “time traveller”: you may realize that the arm actually belongs to the man right behind him. Why would another man’s arm be in that position? Is there even space for such a large, tall “time traveller” to stand in there?

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These could be indications that the man was inserted into the image without much care for perspective.

Or perhaps it’s just an unusual perspective, and the arm from the man behind just looks like it’s over the “time traveller”, even touching the camera? Or could the arm actually belong to the hipster traveller?

I don’t know.

If this is a digital hoax, why would the hoaxer insert a man that seems out of place, but not actually using anything that couldn’t be found in the 1940s? The camera is definitely old. What looks like a stamped T-shirt is a sweatshirt with emblem. Why not have him use something definitely out of time, like the logo for a company that wouldn’t be created until decades later, such as NIKE or even Microsoft? It would even make an amazing viral marketing for any company that managed to get buzz from this. Why not?

I don’t know.

Once again, it must be clear that even if this photograph is authentic, even if it depicts a real scene from 1940, it would not be the proof of time travel. Alas. Also, I tend to assume that given the source, the photo is indeed authentic, not tampered with. But that arm, it does look strange. I’m not sure. I don’t know.

I tried to send an email to the Bralorne Pioneer museum, but the address was not valid. I’m still trying to find (an easy) way to contact it. If you manage to get an official response from them, do share it. If you discover anything else, do share it. This is an adorable little “mystery”.

If I find anything of relevance, including flying Deloreans, I will update this page. [hattip to Aurélio Moraes, obrigado!]

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  1. Karoly April 16th, 2010 12:16 am

    THAT IS A BATMAN T-SHIRT IN THE GUY!!! BATMAN WAS CREATED IN 1939, AND BEGAN TO BE FAMOUS IN 1940.. íNOT MUCH SURPRISE SOMEONE’S WEARING IT IN 1940.

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  3. woodwose April 16th, 2010 9:14 am

    The glasses look to me like motorcycling/safety goggles and the figure on his jersey could easily be a deco pattern knitted into the garment. His hair is period too–something difficult to get right if you’re going for an historic look. Nothing really out of place here in 1930.

  4. Jeff S. April 16th, 2010 9:33 am

    “Let’s look again at the photo. Pay attention to the right arm of the “time traveller”: you may realize that the arm actually belongs to the man right behind him. Why would another man’s arm be in that position? Is there even space for such a large, tall “time traveller” to stand in there?”

    Why even throw this proposition in there? I suppose if you look at it hard enough you can convince yourself it’s not his hand, but the most likely (and believable) answer is that it *is* his hand. You can tell by the cast shadows that that arm would be in a shadow, accounting for the darker color of the sweater – and that hand looks pretty similar to his left (long, slender). I’m not sure why you’d bring this up as if it were almost fact…?

  5. t'mara April 16th, 2010 9:50 am

    my dad had an old pair of “sunglasses” like these.
    they aren’t modern profile at all.
    there are triangular side pieces that are attached to the frame part that goes back to the ear. my dad’s glasses also had lens material along the top of the frames. (between the frame and the eyebrows.
    if you look at the picture closely you can see the construction.
    and yes, he told me they were “safety glasses.”

  6. Matt Egger April 16th, 2010 11:12 am

    Not everyone wore a fedora in 1940. I immediately thought climber/mountaineer. He’s wearing glacier glasses, not whatever those girl glasses from that movie are. Those, plus the wool sweater and Kodak pocket camera were pretty standard for the kind of people that trekked to the top of mountains 60ish years ago. Oh yeah… BC = Canadian Rockies.

  7. alanborky April 16th, 2010 12:52 pm

    Kentaro, I happen to be of a mindset that – for a variety of reasons – finds scenarios like time travellers perfectly acceptable.

    In fact – if I’m honest – I happen to personally know someone who does it physically, as well as others who can do it mentally, (and as you might imagine, it can be highly lucrative for them).

    Ye’, ye’ – I know…and what’s worse: I usually get battered every time I leak info like that, even though no one – rightly! – ever takes a blind bit of notice – ah, but what the hell!

    Anyway, I tell you all this to put in perspective my observations of your piccy: it’s a hoax.

    Not only’d the guy’s ear have to be sticking out at extreme right angles to his head to generate that shadow, but the shadow’s source of illumination’s from somewhere above him, indicating if it’s the sun his image was taken close to midday.

    If you then look past the two hats behind him, there’s a bespectacled guy whose ear shadow is much more compact and localised around the ear itself, indicating: 1) for his image the sun’s much lower on the horizon – i.e., it’s much later on in the day; and 2) whereas future boy’s light source is coming not just from above him but almost directly behind him, speccy boy’s light source is coming from much more to his left.

    Finally, what clinches for me future boy’s light source probably isn’t even the sun is notice how the hair of everybody else without a hat almost glows, especially those individuals who, like future boy, have their hair sort of fluffed out – even the short brunette, (looking in future boy’s general direction, past the guy with the trilby and specs on his right), though she’s hardly exposed to the sun directly, still manages to catch enough of it to give her hair a neonesque outline.

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  9. Matt Egger April 16th, 2010 3:47 pm

    Based on glacier glasses, clothes, camera and location, this dude’s a climber, not a time traveler (except in the sense that we all are time travelers). There was no photoshopping.

    Occam’s Razor. You are all wrong. I am the one who is right.

  10. Sean April 16th, 2010 3:52 pm

    @ alanborky: Prove it.

  11. jum1801 April 16th, 2010 4:43 pm

    You people can NOT be serious! It’s a modern photo, obviously on a movie/tv set.

    God help us.

  12. Matt Egger April 16th, 2010 5:35 pm

    morans.

  13. yabba April 16th, 2010 5:38 pm

    why is he the only one that’s dressed like he is, everyone else is in suits but not him, hmmmmm!???!?!?!?!?!??????

  14. lewarcher April 16th, 2010 6:44 pm

    alanborky revealed our secret. Now we have to exile him to the Phantom Zone.

    Yeesh. The internet has all sorts of crazy.

    Real pic, dude’s not inserted, and Mori, your breakdown of all bits of the photograph and its context is excellent. Love your site; keep up the good work!

  15. Boing Boing April 16th, 2010 8:29 pm

    Time traveler caught in 1940 photo?…

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  16. Greg VA April 16th, 2010 8:55 pm

    That hipster doofus is clearly a young Kosmo Kramer! How can you not see that?!

  17. Marty April 16th, 2010 9:10 pm

    Moran? U must be from the far idiotic future. Welcome.

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  19. Cosmo P Topper April 16th, 2010 10:01 pm

    With regard to the hipster’s right arm; I think it’s his own arm. The jacket he is wearing could have sleeves made out of a different material than the body. Alternatively, the jacket could be lined with shearling and we’re seeing that lining exposed.

    If he is from the future (with respect to 1940) since he is Canada he is more than likely to be a time traveller not a a time traveler.

    ;-)

  20. Hockeyman April 16th, 2010 10:42 pm

    It’s seems to be a Montreal Maroons hockey team logo/sweater, team folded in 1938, wiki it.

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  23. chello April 16th, 2010 11:39 pm

    The hipster was born in the 1940s
    “”Hipster” has been used in sometimes contradictory ways, making it difficult to precisely define “hipster culture” because it is a “mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior[s].”[1] One commentator argues that “hipsterism fetishizes the authentic” elements of all of the “fringe movements of the postwar era—beat, hippie, punk, even grunge,” and draws on the “cultural stores of every unmelted ethnicity” and “gay style”, and “regurgitates it with a winking inauthenticity” and a sense of irony.”

    ….My trouble with the picture however is the framing and what appears to be the focus. Why would a 1040s photographer capture that guy, and look at the girl …staring right at him while no one else is.

    With that said, I not knowing anything about climbing or mountaineering, I will have to agree with Matt Egger, that he is a mountaineer. The setting makes it very likely and his hair and his 4 o’clock shadow tells me that he had been in the area for a least 1-2 days. That would give the photographer a reason to frame him, and the girl a reason to stare. The dismissiveness of the others could be explained by him being a common figure around the area.

    As for other’s arguments, one…look where the guy behind him head is located, how it’s turned, his right arm would be really awkward if he had it where the time travler is standing. I believe the guy behind him is easing his way infront of the travler as the travler looks like his head is turning to greet the guy, his mouth looks like it’s just about to start moving to speak.

    alanborky suggest that the sun is a give away, however, I believe the sun is hitting him exactly as it’s hitting everyone else, but do to his movement while the picture was being taken the light casted a larger shadow around his ears, the other guy’s ear shadow is focused around his ear because his ear is pointing in the general direction of the sun, shrinking his shadow. Please note the time travlers left hand, it’s glowing in the sun suggesting like everyone else the sun in behind them and to the left

  24. Matt Egger April 17th, 2010 12:14 am

    Morans are real and exist in the idiotic today.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moran

  25. netherman April 17th, 2010 12:36 am

    George Thomson, the assayer at Bralorne Mines, bears a slightly older resemblance to that young man. It’s image 24 at the Bralorne Museum site. Of course now that gold is thrown into the mix speculation will go madly off in all directions.

  26. Dan O April 17th, 2010 12:36 am

    a batman t-shirt in 1940? don’t think so. the oldest printed t-shirt is from 1948. and the few adults who followed comic books would not have walked around wearing them on their clothes anyway. it was a different time.

  27. Karoly April 17th, 2010 12:56 am

    Okay thats a very good point, thank you. But anyways, if this guy is so outfit from the crowd, why isn’t anybody staring at him? If he was so outstanding from the crowd, people would be staring at him like who’s that strange guy there. But no one looks at him. And if he was so strange and outfit, not only one photo were made of him, rather about a hundred, like “oh look at this guy, so outstanding, looking like coming from the future, grab a photo from him”. But there is only one photo, and no looks at him strangely. But this is just a logical sh*t, not a fact.

  28. Kotori April 17th, 2010 2:35 am

    That is the “time traveler’s” own right and. The sweater is just a vest. The sleeve of the sweatshirt is what you see and perfectly matches the color.

  29. Pete April 17th, 2010 3:21 am

    Looks like he’s wearing an old University of Michigan block M sweater or sweatshirt to me.

  30. Me April 17th, 2010 3:37 am

    Its the ultimate hipster for the ages.

  31. Anonymous April 17th, 2010 5:21 am

    Given that this photo is from British Columbia, hence not far from Washington State, I thought it might be a University of Washington sweatshirt. The emblem looks a bit like a W. Not an uncommon sight in the Pacific Northwest.

  32. diy_MAN April 17th, 2010 8:35 am

    why can’t people accept that hes from the future and hes just visiting to get some cool shots wit his new camara from the year 1940.

    And he’s looking that chick because he wants to get laid.

    yeah it’s that obvious…

    Nahh I’m kidding ^^ …but seriously could it be?

  33. CJ Burton April 17th, 2010 8:49 am

    Remember that Canada is at war in 1940 – I think it might be considered a little odd for a service aged man to be watching the reopening of a bridge. He could be secret service or conversely he may have a German accent.

  34. Mel April 17th, 2010 9:18 am

    It’s a nice idea but a photshop picture. Someone spent time making the phot blend in but forgot about shadows. The shadow of his ear across his face doesn’t happen on anyone elses face (no ear shadow).

    Very sad for like a lot of others I’d have liked to have seen proof of the real thing.

  35. ron April 17th, 2010 9:40 am

    sure looks like a texas long horn insignia on his shirt,not sure yea he looks different. kinda modern,the glasses,look old,but they do make those kind now, just not sure. the john titor story was crap. in it he survived by sailing up and down the coast of fl. selling oranges, but there are no real comercial orage groves in the area of west central fl. and the cost is so shallow you can only come in a few places,and these people could have orange tress and grapefruit in their own back yard. no real demand. so as far as that its fake.

  36. thatdingo April 17th, 2010 11:08 am

    The funny thing is that so many people are focused on the tall guy in the middle, nobody noticed the man in the lower left is holding an iPhone.

  37. The Weird Line April 17th, 2010 11:31 am

    “I think it’s his own arm. The jacket he is wearing could have sleeves made out of a different material than the body.”

    It IS his arm. Looks at the shoulders of his sweater, they have dark (we’ll call it black) panels, and it also has a black collar. The sleeves are probably black as well. His right arm is obscured.

    I think what we have here is a guy with a hockey (the photo was taken in BC) or school sweater with a zip-up two color sweater jacket. The type of glasses he is wearing were available at the time as welding, motorcycle or aviation “goggles”.

  38. Crinoidgirl April 17th, 2010 11:35 am

    Karoly, he isn’t the focal point of the original picture. Look at the very start of this piece.

  39. JC April 17th, 2010 11:53 am

    His shirt looks like a University of Michigan “block M” to me

  40. MICHAEL Cohen April 17th, 2010 12:19 pm

    If you want proof of time travel look up the following on google: Leonardo DaVinci bicycle. About 30 years ago a long lost drawng of the great man was discovered in Spain showing a modern bicycle. The question is how did he know what a modern bicycle looks like? There was only two ways he knew: he himself is a time traveler or was influenced by one.
    When you read the artcles about this drawing notice how the professors are furious about this find and try to claim,unseccessfully, that it is a forgery. Also notice how they try to protect the ‘time line’ of the development of the bicycle and how this drawing destroys this time line and the work of previous inventors. It does more then that because it destroys our very concept of history when there is evidence that people can travel back in time and actually influece events. Do not forget how DaVinci was able to draw inventions that were five hundred years ahead of their time such as a stank, macine gun, helicpoter, etc.

  41. kodos April 17th, 2010 12:34 pm

    If you believe the photo is a fake, or proof of time travel I have some magic beans for sale.

  42. nasima April 17th, 2010 1:09 pm

    They used to make little pieces of leather or plastic that slip on the stems of the glasses to block sun from the sides of your glasses (I used to have some). I believe that is what his glasses have, giving the illusion of some modern plastic design.

  43. DaddyMac April 17th, 2010 1:26 pm

    No time traveler here, just a hipster (can’t even call him a ‘doofus’ until we get to know him better). : )

    I think he came to the event on a motorcycle, which would explain his glasses, hair and sweater vest.

  44. cHello April 17th, 2010 1:44 pm

    MICHAEL Cohen, time travel is possible in theory; however….you would counter human imagination with a notion that someone had to influence it. If that is true where would humanity be in the future in the first place if not pulling from another influence? I once asked myself where did the concept of robots come from? As if they had been taken from a place and time not of our own, to influence movies and books and the imagination of millions.

    If there is something that needs to exist, it will exist first in the imagination, there it waits until a process comes around to develop it or refine it. Most of what we consider modern predates us with crude drawings and even cruder artifacts of that object. That does not prove time travel, that only proves the resilience of human thoughts towards a goal. Hell maybe I’m wrong, maybe a time traveler did visit DaVinci…or maybe he can see into the future. But what is the most logical earthly answer? We talk about time travel now, in the future it will exist as it comes from our desires to see it exist. But this picture is not of a time traveler.

  45. ogopogo April 17th, 2010 2:22 pm

    His sweater has a zipper closing.see the pull tab above his hand.Was metal used for zippers in war time?

  46. Elizabeth April 17th, 2010 2:24 pm

    I copied the enlargement to picasa and played with the values. His shirt has a large M on it, nothing futuristic about that. Just shifting the brightness brought up the texture on his sweater. The guy doesn’t look to me out of time, just a big tall lanky guy with sunglasses on. As for the hand it is either his hand or someone was trying to swipe it from him from behind. I tend to think its his hand in shadow…I still don’t see futuristic so much as “doesn’t match the crowd”. If somone finds a photograph of someone wearing a digital watch in 1898 then I might say you have something…this is just a 1940’s man.

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  48. K!P April 17th, 2010 3:09 pm

    whatever the case; the girl in the backgrond seems to be looking at him :)

  49. Lance L. Landon April 17th, 2010 4:52 pm

    Assuming that I could go back in time for a visit, I would likely go back to see and meet old family relatives, some that had died before I was born and visit old places that no longer exist. I would on these occasions go back and experience some of my families’ history, not necessarily historical events.

  50. FreeBooteR April 17th, 2010 5:59 pm

    The shirt looks like a Much Music shirt emblem. It would make sense if he were a Canadian going back in time.

    Though it is all coincidence. It just looks like somebody in modern clothing stule.

  51. jum1801 April 17th, 2010 6:23 pm

    …and, predictably, Coast To Coast picks this moronic item as a straight “crypto news” thing. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/ Look for it to be Wiki’d by tomorrow…with citations to “prove” that the story is “reliable”.

    There is one good thing which can come from this: this story could serve as an excellent test for any number of human activities. Belief in this story could immediately serve to disqualify the holder for several activities which require good judgment, intelligence and maturity; such as parenthood, voting rights, firearms ownership, security clearance and driver’s license. Quick, simple, effective.

  52. Pepe April 17th, 2010 6:40 pm

    “…how spurious…the idea that a time traveler would want to visit the [opening] of a bridge…”

    In the movie “Kate and Leopold” Liev Schreiber’s character goes back in time and listens to a speech in front of the Brooklyn Bridge, celebrating its construction, which had just begun. It IS a big bridge.

  53. Mike Franklin April 17th, 2010 6:40 pm

    I am constantly amazed how many desk’perts are out there to immediately solve every mystery by simple denial.

    Heck, anything that doesn’t immediately fit their interpretation of normal, must be faked. Right?

    Just how do they know this?

    Because if they would fake a picture to fool you, it means you and everyone else would do the same to fool them. And to prevent becoming a victim of their own brand of juvenile prank, they just deny as a matter of fact.

    Hey, better safe in the bosom of ignorance than punked by another punk, ya know?

  54. Sue April 17th, 2010 7:01 pm

    Fake…the shadows are not correct and there are other anomalies, too numerous to mention.

  55. pete April 17th, 2010 7:44 pm

    the sunlight is shining down on the man perfectly. look at the woman standing in front of him, her hat has a cast shadow from the traveler. also the angle of the shadow on the mans ear is diagonal and if you see the man with glasses standing above him his cast shadow from his hat is also diagonal. most likely this photo has not been altered and this dude is not a time traveler. but its fun to think he is, yes?

  56. Roedrev April 17th, 2010 8:56 pm

    It looks as if the guy behind him is trying to get past. That would explain the look on the “time travelers” face, as well as the hand being behind the camera. What would be interesting to know is the setting, or context.

  57. Mr Bill April 17th, 2010 9:43 pm

    Depressing to know that in the future, there is still not a cure for hair loss!

  58. Chumley Spartle April 17th, 2010 9:51 pm

    here it looks like the timer traveler fell in love and had some children.

    http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm.php?id=display_original&lg=English&fl=0&rd=124431&ex=234

  59. Nemestrinus April 17th, 2010 11:19 pm

    Regarding the shirt, I tend to agree with what Hockeyman said above about it being a Montreal jersey or whatever. And the glasses look like glacier shades, which are designed to minimize the possibility of snow blindness in polar regions, such as northern Canada.
    Now, the thing I find most interesting myself about this picture, is the guy to the left behind him, the guy that looks like he’s looking at our suspect (although, that might be a reflection in his glasses). I find it interesting how much he looks like a young Mitch Pileggi, the actor who plays Skinner in X-files.

  60. ArtyMarty April 17th, 2010 11:56 pm

    .. I think he might have used my time machine I am building.
    http://www.marty.com.au/workbench/75-timemachine-part-1.html
    As I don’t yet know this guy, I either him (and am yet to become friends with him) or he stole it – either way I should look out for him…

  61. Marc C. April 18th, 2010 12:37 am

    There IS a time traveller in this picture, but it’s not the “hipster”. It’s actually Mitch Pileggi (Assistant Director Walter Skinner from the X-Files). He standing just behind and to the right of the hipster. He’s wearing a suite, a fedora and glasses. How did HE get in this photograph, that’s the real mystery!

    P.S. Here’s Mitch Pileggi: http://www.txf.net/images/mp/mitch-pileggi09.jpg

  62. Jeff Lewis April 18th, 2010 1:01 am

    Actually, the right arm is entirely reasonable. Imagine you’re standing upright and are rather thin.. now, hang a camera where the shutter and controls are on the barrel of the lens.. the most comfortable way to hold this if you want to keep your hands on the controls, is essentially with your arms bent, flattened along your sides… it looks wrong because most of the arm is actually behind the guy (poking the guy behind him and to his right, no doubt).

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  64. Alex April 18th, 2010 2:12 am

    The lighting looks different on the Hipster than it does on the rest of the folks. I’m calling shenanigans! I believe it is photoshopped.

  65. sjm April 18th, 2010 2:27 am

    The dead giveaway is the stiched-in tuft of hair he sports in the front. Unless we haven’t improved hair restoration techniques by the time we’re capable of time travel.

  66. 1freethinker April 18th, 2010 3:06 am

    Is he a time traveler? Probably not, but I do find the remarks about him pretty thought provoking. It is an interesting example of free thought when people are allowed to discuss even the most outlandish ideas just because they can. It’s too bad some are willing to willfully dismiss other people’s opinions outright because they don’t ‘fit’ with the ‘normal’ mindset. Just imagine what Leonardo’s peers thought of him?!

  67. Nevada Chuck April 18th, 2010 3:19 am

    OK, folks, take another look. The large letter on his chest is not centered, indicating that there is something more to the right of it (our right, as we face him).

    Ready, . . . hold it, . . . hold it, it’s an

    M! as in Mtv! It’s the logo for the music network. The photo isn’t doctored, isn’t Photoshopped.

    Now remember the famous Sherlock Aphorism: When you’ve eliminated everything that’s impossible, then whatever’s left, no matter how improbable, must be the answer.

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  69. G.I.R. April 18th, 2010 5:08 am

    The camera appears to be an old Kodak Brownie camera, and the sunglasses look like safety glasses. Maybe the fellow worked in a machine or welding shop.

  70. Darcy April 18th, 2010 5:13 am

    People go to great lengths at times to create hoaxes to prove to their friends how clever they are. Brailorne is a clever place to pick. I have travelled the area my whole life and can tell you there is nothing left there now except for a couple of old houses occupied by OAP collecting aging hippies. The young guy looks awfully tall compared to man behind him who is almost completely hidden except for his ear and part of his hat. This man seems to be standing way too close to him to even maintain his balance. the traveller appears underdressed for the occasion. He could also be inserted from another similar time period photo. Brailorne is perched on a steep hillside. This picture, if it is from the area at all would have to be taken in the Bridge River Valley below the town of Gold Bridge 20 miles away.

  71. Snuggie Pattern Cult April 18th, 2010 5:22 am

    I don’t know what year that guy is from, but I bet he got laid a lot. Or not at all.

  72. peterpan007 April 18th, 2010 6:01 am

    My friend lives right near Bralorne, Im gonna ask him to go and check the history of the photo, and if he can give me better details of the clothing and camera in the photo.

  73. ChrisM, Nottingham April 18th, 2010 7:02 am

    I’ve searched for ages but can’t find his name, however the guy over the “hipster”‘s right shoulder, who is looking directly at the camera, is clearly a famous movie or TV actor. I’m sure he’s played a detective in possible a superhero movie or some police story.

    I like the ideas about the man-out-of-time being a mountaineer. I concur with the sunglasses side protectors being glacier glasses and think the rear neckline of his t shirt looks large and old and / or stretched like a manky old mountaineer’s thermal shirt.

    I can’t get my head around the M printed on his shirt, this looks very modern.

    I believe this is a photo from a film set, surprisingly modern looking clothing in an old photo, or simply a good fake. I don’t believe for a moment that it’s a time traveller. I’d love to, but seriously?? No!

    I’m highly inclined to think he’s pasted over someone else. I agree there seems too little room for him, in front of the guy with the mystery arm.

  74. […] It really did give me the creeps when I took a closer look at the picture. He is dressed like someone from the 1970s to 1990s but this picture was taken way before. As an avid Sci-fi fan, I got intrigued. I love the time travelling and meta-physics stories and books, and I love reading about the possibly futuristic world. This is the FIRST time I’ve actually seen proof that time travelling might actually exist! Another blog pointed out that this man might not be a time traveller, but someone that’s dressed a little different from the others. http://forgetomori.com/2010/fortean/time-traveler-caught-in-museum-photo/ […]

  75. Michael Weaver April 18th, 2010 8:18 am

    I would say that the “arm” in question belongs to the “man” in question

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  77. JimJam April 18th, 2010 8:35 am

    “DaVinci was able to draw inventions that were five hundred years ahead of their time such as a stank, macine gun, helicpoter, etc.”

    Davinci invented stank? I hear he also invented spell check. Too bad nobody developed that idea.

  78. palmateer April 18th, 2010 8:45 am

    If time travel is ever to exist, don’t you think we would know about it by now? After all, someone would have come back in time, if only to warn us about some impending doom, or at least lay down some cold hard cash on multiple sporting events that could make them rich. I don’t care what you say about the implications of messing with the past. The human nature is too easily corrupted and selfish to pass up one of those chances, either for recognition or personal gain or both.

  79. Cat Callahan April 18th, 2010 8:54 am

    I have written six books on time-travel(under a pen name) and can verify that it really DOES happen! I don’t believe that we can find a machine, dial 1930, turn it on and be there! However we time-travel inadvertently by being around things that cause dimensional shift. My experience with this happened when Steve Gibbs ran his hyper-dimensional Resonator(HDR) in my home. The next day I saw a movie that was totally different from the one I had seen many times before! Often times when you shift dimensionally, only one thing changes. For me, it was the movie and the color of a candle on my dining room table.

  80. M. Louder April 18th, 2010 8:59 am

    Because this photo has stirred up such a quandary on the net, I thought I would comment about it as I have here about several other historical photos. I stress that I am not a photographic expert. My only expertise is in the analysis of styles and modes peculiar to various times and places in history.

    I have read the article where such things as the knitted border sweatshirt are discussed. And I tend to agree with the debunking. Also, it is quite true, as noted here and elsewhere, that the sunglasses were quite available at the time, either as flying or driving glasses.

    I cannot comment as to whether the time traveler has been inserted into the photo as others have. Some here at the department do indeed study photos pixel by pixel and two have assured me that this is not a photoshop job. Another one says it is.

    What I can do is what I do best: Comment on the authenticity of the captured event and the people in it within the historical context of 1939-40.

    The first striking thing about the “time traveler” (if it is true) is that he appears to have an unkempt or unshaven beard. Maybe this is a shadow, but if it is not, then he is quite out of place for 1940. Being clean shaven was an obsession in the era. Canada was very close to going to war on Britain’s side by this time, and having a five o’clock shadow was just not socially acceptable.

    Secondly, the man has unusually long hair for the time. Granted it is combed backwards, but in a style that did not become popular until later, namely a “dry style.” A young man with such long hair in 1940 would have surely used some sort of hair lotion to hold it down. His hair style is totally out of place. Someone accredited this to being a “beatnik” but even the earliest beatniks, say around 1950, would have flattened their hair down better. This dry look is extremely unsual for the era.

    Although every man is not bareheaded in the photo, it is indeed unusual that a gentleman of this age would be so. The obsessive wearing of hats became a badge of youth at the time and did not end until the late 1950s. Okay, the old men have hats too, but notice they are slouch-brim type hats and not dented. This is typical for those who would have been in the older generation in 1940. The younger men, like the one to the man’s side, are wearing the uniform of the day. Shorter, styled brim and a top dent. The absence of a hat is always significant in photos of the era in question.

    The article mentions that this event is the opening of a bridge in some small town in British Columbia. I wish we could get more information about that. The excitement level of the crowd seems to indicate that there is more going on here than than the opening of a bridge. However, the crowd formation is exactly what one would expect in the 1940s. There is a line of parked cars which seems to hold back the crowd. People were more respectful of law and order in those days, and it is very plausible that they onlookers would stay behind the cars, but again, this indicates a more important reason for the gathering, as does the man’s camera and the other cameras, which are indeed authentic for the time.. I suspect something military is happening, like the unveiling of a tank or a plane. Canada, as I have said, is very close to entering the war. The most important thing that could draw a crowd at this time would have been war related.

    There is a very telling absence of cigarettes, cigars and pipes in this photo. A group that large and that happy in 1940 would have included some smokers, both male and female. I can see none. This suggests not that the photo is not authentic but that there is some reason for not smoking. The proximity of the people would not have caused such a smoking abstention. People smoked everywhere in those days, and it does not matter how close they are together.

    Another aspect of the picture, as compared to like pictures, of the time is the almost random mixing of men and women. Generally, the men would have clustered more together as would the women. There is something going on here which has caused these people to rush up randomly to the line of pre-parked cars and watch. The event definitely lacks pre-planning. The women would have been quite separate from the men if this had been so.

    Whether or not the time traveler is wearing a contemporary sweater or not, he is totally out of uniform for the social class and culture of the event. His dress may indicate a collegiate look to some, but even that would cause some commotion in a crowd like this. He seems too brash for the times, as does his style of garments. Even his unsubdued expression would have been slightly suspect in a crowd like this. He is simply too out of place for the photo. His whole attitude should have caused suspicion.

    The coats, collars, ties, tie knots, women’s hats and everything else seems totally normal. The man himself is the only anomaly, and Canada in the 1940s was no place for anomalies.

    In short, I view it as a totally authentic photo with the exception of the man in question. I can see where someone might characterize him as “too modern,” but what is especially modern about his is his sense of brashness as exhibited in his dress and expression and stance. Of course, as I have said, people have clearly rushed up to see this event, and he may have recently arrived and has not yet caused much attention (except from one woman).

    My verdict, finally, is that something is defintely wrong here, but I cannot say exactly what it is. The man, for whatever reasons, does not belong in the photo.

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  82. S. McGill April 18th, 2010 9:43 am

    Just contact someone from this very small town and try track down someone who was there at the time and see if they recognize the guy. I bet the young lady in the background is still alive. He is most likely someone’s father or uncle and has family still living there. He is the approximate age my father is, and dear old dad is alive and well.

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  85. achtung April 18th, 2010 11:04 am

    What about the women in the background? She seems to be heading directly to the guy out of the future ?!

  86. bob April 18th, 2010 11:30 am

    photoshop ftw

  87. Aaron April 18th, 2010 11:43 am

    I doubt anyone would remember the guy from 70 years ago if they where still alive.

  88. Glen Raphael April 18th, 2010 12:37 pm

    Montreal Maroons was a good guess and it does seem like a college or sports logo top, but the font of the “M” is wrong for an official Montreal Maroons logo. The Maroons used a strong serif font which included a bar on the top corners. University of Michigan also used that sort of font.

    http://images.google.com/images?q=Montreal%20Maroons
    http://images.google.com/images?q=Michigan%20University%20logo

  89. Donnie April 18th, 2010 3:14 pm

    What I want to know is why Assistant Director Walter Skinner from the X-Files is standing beside him :-P

    He even has that token sinister, sideways glare at the camera!

  90. jaytee April 18th, 2010 3:15 pm

    Drop this photo into a program that will let you blow it up real big.
    The guy is getting the stink-eye from two feds.

    Look closely, you’ll notice two men both looking at him with what looks to be deep suspicion.

    One of them is standing between him and the girl moving toward him.

    The other is standing with his elbow on the car.

    Both of these men are giving the guy a very sideways glance, as if in anticipation that he may be about to do something or try something.

    Two theories on why. The simple: photo is real and the guy is just a weirdo in terms of dress and style, and they are suspicious of him for that. The complex: He’s a time traveler and came through to this moment, but these two cops came through as well to keep tabs on him and prevent him from doing anything untoward.

    I think it’s especially freaky that the two feds look like they could be clones of each other.

  91. XD April 18th, 2010 4:12 pm

    Its all an elaborate hoax. This photo is obviously photoshopped. You can tell. It was photoshopped and sent back in time to the 1940s by time travelers. Just to fuck with us in 2010 when the photo is uploaded to the internet.

  92. rrrr April 18th, 2010 6:29 pm

    I think there’s a fairly easy explanation for the ‘out of place’ arm. It is the time-travel guy’s, and not the dude behind him. His fluffy jacket thing is sleeveless so it’s the arms of the sweater underneath that are showing.

  93. Jason April 18th, 2010 6:40 pm

    there is clearly need for an exciting new movie to come out, because if people are wasting their time on THIS then they obviously need something to do. photoshop came out a hell of a long time ago. back to the future was a great film, but nothing to start a religion about.

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  96. Laura April 18th, 2010 8:28 pm

    He looks like he has an earphone wire dangling out of his top…

  97. nk April 18th, 2010 8:43 pm

    @Cat Callahan

    You said “My experience with this happened when Steve Gibbs ran his hyper-dimensional Resonator(HDR) in my home”

    When and how did you use the HDR and does it really work? Im so curious..please respond.. thanks..

  98. I Zilbermann April 18th, 2010 8:56 pm

    My initial comments are as follows:

    1) The woman is definitely not looking at him, but more towards the camera.

    2) Is there no one who is an old haircutter, or whose father was, that can absolutely analyze the haircut of the guy?

    3)Whatever the event is, it has not yet happened.See the man with the folded arms, waiting.

  99. JMan April 18th, 2010 9:04 pm

    That’s a knitted sweater and the camera is not modern, it has a curved eye piece that extends out from the back of the camera. It isn’t a Land Camera, but I have seen eye pieces like that before. Aren’t hipsters all trying to emulate this style?

  100. Billy April 18th, 2010 9:58 pm

    Interesting photo. The time traveler …. isn’t. I grew up in that little gold mining town and I think I remember him. My thanks to whomever submitted the pic. I have lots of Bralorne pics. but not that one.
    Wonderful place to vacation. Good trout fishing, scenic and only a hundred miles north of Vancouver.
    Ugh…not time travelers though :-)

  101. Don April 18th, 2010 10:25 pm

    Have you guys really done your research regarding the source of this photo? A South Fork Bridge reopening also occurred around this same period in the eastern U.S. — and although the flood causing the damage there broke loose several years earlier (late 1930s), that was also the site of the greatest loss-of-life disaster in U.S. history a half century earlier than here — the worst disaster EVER prior to 9/11. Such a major event might lure interest from a “time-traveler” whose demeanor and “distanced” expression (and Batman T-shirt?) are far more representative of this century, wouldn’t one suspect?

  102. RG April 18th, 2010 10:47 pm

    If you look at the photo enough it really does look like the guy is quite tall compared to the people around him added the size of his head as well.

  103. Mic April 18th, 2010 11:04 pm

    Did anyone else notice that the guy to his right looks like Skinner from X-files?

  104. nick April 19th, 2010 12:25 am

    Im gonna be that guy for halloween this year.

  105. Lizzy911 April 19th, 2010 12:38 am

    Maybe the arm isn’t out of place. Maybe the guy just has a sweater vest on over a long sleeved shit. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1196/1354353896_f8f5b06d16.jpg?v=0 something like that maybe??? Very interesting.

  106. Frankie April 19th, 2010 12:46 am

    Could he have been a miner come to check out the event?
    Perhaps it wasn’t such a weird occurrence to have miners dressed “shabbily”.
    (Check out the museum website for evidence that there were mines in the area)

  107. Ejay April 19th, 2010 1:28 am

    More than likely it is:
    (a) – a group of modern actors dressed up/fitted out for a movie about the 1940s…or
    (b) – an old photo doctored by photoshop…there is no way to tell, these days, with the newest versions…or
    (c) – an old photo with a guy from that time wearing things from that time, and carrying a camera from that time, which happen to look more modern than they are because all new styles are just recycled old styles.

    It most likely is not a time tyraveller. Time travel is possible according to Newtonian, Reletivity, and Quantum, physics, but any time traveller interacting even that much with that many people would have altered history so much that the world would no longer be here.

  108. Ejay April 19th, 2010 1:53 am

    If a time traveller went back in time to make money, he would not do so by betting on horse races. He would do it by discovering, and owning, the major: gold, silver, copper, coal, and diamond, mines of the world, as well as the major oil fields, and by funding major wars, and by patenting the world’s major inventions in his name, selling such inventions, etc. He would own damned near everything everywhere, and by now be undisputed King Of The World.

    Imagine the profits from selling the only machne guns, tanks, planes, etc, in the world to all the nations in a world war. Imagine the wealth of: Northrupp, Krupp, Beretta, Colt, Chrysler, Lockheed, BP, US Steel, Apple Computer, IBM, Standard Oil, etc, etc, etc, all rolled into one massive fortune owned by one person. The fact that such is not the case is proof that no such time travelling money seeker exists. The profits from horse racing, etc, bets would not pay for the cost of the time trip. Like space travel, time travel will require money,and resources….A LOT of each.

    Figure a few billion dollars for each little time hop, of a few years, and a few trillion dollars for longer trips going back decades. A trip of several centuries would bankrupt a small nation, or two. Only by coming back from a time trip with ownership of something like The Anaconda mines, De Beers organization & resources, etc, could a time trip be made worthwhile. Only a big government of a big, rich, nation like the USA could even afford to fund the first time trip. Only such a nation could afford the research to figure time travel out in the first place. When time travel is developed, it will be by a government using it for conquest.

    The first time traveller will take a few briefcase sized nukes back to ancient Egypt, Greece, etc, and take over the world, and use the resources so gained to maintain control forever. One royal family will rule the planet for all of time. It hasn’t happened yet, so we klnow time travel has not yet been achieved.

  109. JohnC April 19th, 2010 3:49 am

    Lots of interesting analysis, however a few things seem to have been overlooked:

    This area is *nowhere* near the Rocky Mountains. There is no glacier, it gets snowy in the winter. If you look at some of the other pictures it’s very common for the men to not be wearing hats and also to have the “dry” look. Here’s a good one: http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm.php?id=display_original&lg=English&fl=0&rd=124506&ex=234

    The picture clearly states it’s the reopening of a bridge after a flood. It’s a bit of a guess but judging by what I know about these remoter areas and bridges it’s a pretty big deal when a bridge goes out and could result in people being completely cut off short of paddling across back and forth for some time or possibly driving many hours to get around it so it would be a big deal when it reopens and a lot of people would be waiting to get through and it would be quite an event in a small place like this.

    But though it’s fun to speculate anyone who thinks this picture is photoshopped should have a look around at all the other pictures on the site to realize there’d just be no point really.

  110. ladybug April 19th, 2010 6:18 am

    Dude i have searched high and low and cannot find anything to do with batman that even slightly resembles that W on the guys shirt.
    It’s probably a school letter or something. Maybe he’s a tourist. maybe just an individualist who likes to stand out from the crowd.

  111. Erin April 19th, 2010 7:20 am

    The guy right next to him in the glasses looks exactly like Mitch Pileggi.

    The hiker theory seems likely. As for the arm… it’s probably his, but I could see it belonging the guy directly behind him, whose face is blocked. He looks like he could have been trying to get in front of the mystery guy and was using his arm to try to push him out of the way or at least let him know that he’s trying to get by. It would make sense since the mystery guy is so tall that the shorter guy wouldn’t be able to see, so he’d want to move closer to the front. As a short person, that’s what I would do.

  112. Jerry April 19th, 2010 7:39 am

    I blew up the photo and noticed the mans’ face appears to be pasted on to the back of the head.

    Note the perfectly vertical line from the upper side of his head, past his ear with the curiously dark nearly straight line in it, down his neck to his shirt. Note how the ear is in TWO PIECES that don’t seem to match.

    A blowup of the camera shows it doesn’t appear to be modern or digital, closest I could find was a 1926 Kodak Hawkeye camera – http://www.digicamhistory.com/1920s.html

    I seriously doubt this guy belongs in this photo and was never there…it’s a great hoax but just tain’t so….just my two cents worth…

  113. Eric Blade April 19th, 2010 8:34 am

    Some might notice that there’s a huge blur mark right on the neckline of the shirt, where probably some entirely different thing was blurred out of it. As well, as there’s a collar for something that doesn’t at all belong to the “sweater” or the “t-shirt” …

  114. See McSee April 19th, 2010 8:51 am

    Given it’s a fairly “local” shot, wouldn’t someone in the genealogical society be able determine if this person existed? That is, if they posted the photo to their membership that someone might know someone….

    And the “M” surely stood for something relevant.

    I wondered, too, if this person was a professional photographer.

  115. ana paula April 19th, 2010 10:17 am

    Here is a more modern camera produced by Kodak between 1940 en 1942 http://www.mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/kodak_duex.html

    This looks a bit like the one he is carring (the one you’ve added in the text is far outdated and have not even a similar shape!)

  116. Rod April 19th, 2010 10:44 am

    The shirt logo could be silkscreened, which was done commercially at least since the 1930s.

    As far as the location, Gold Bridge, B.C. is on the east side of the Cascades, which is high desert…..

  117. Kevin Derby April 19th, 2010 11:58 am

    Clearly a big fellow who is wearing a sleeveless sweater vest over a Letter sweater that seems to have a block “M” on the front. I’m guessing college athlete. I bet if someone did the research they could find another photo of this guy on a sports team at a nearby college that starts with “M”

  118. cHello April 19th, 2010 12:49 pm

    Quite a few arguments have come up since i last commented.
    (1) Height
    (2) Hair
    (3) 40s culture
    (4) The old guy
    (5) The “travelers” angle/position etc

    ……I will address these now
    When first looking at this picture I thought the guy was unreasonably tall, and though I can’t base this on scientific merit I do believe people were much shorter in previous decades as they are now, however after closer inspection of the photo I can clearly see that his shoulder line is shorter than or matches that of the older gentlemen in the glasses. Likewise, the guy on the car if he’s not standing on anything is much more taller than the others. The “time traveler”, has a longer head which makes him appear taller than the rest, but that’s not the case.

    Hair, the travelers hair should have been for most the first question asked, and it’s likely that he’s not been near a sink for some and mirror for at least a day or two. This is judging by his facial hair..you see in modern times we call that a weekend beard, because you grow it over the weekend. The area gave away to his appearance, wooded mining community, he could’ve been camping, hiking, a miner.. All likely, though miner is less likely, he’s just too clean and his shirt/sweater makes him appear more colligan.

    40s culture, i know nothing about. However, i know this is taken in Canada, and they’re so different from us US.Americans, especially those disrict of columbians. The guy could be a draft dodger, but again everyone seems to accept his apperance and simply ignore him. Either the guys appearance turns them off, or he’s a common face within the town that no once cares for or he’s stand offish and to himself so they ignore him.

    The arguement about 40’s culture being one of smoking, cigar clubs(men clubs) and gossiping women, makes sense…and if you look at the picture that’s exactly the dynamic i see going on here. There are a group of men without women right in the forefront of the picture, it seems only the older couples stuck together for the most part. And though not everyone is smoking, I do see atleast one person(in the background) doing what appears to be lighting/puffing a cigarette. A great deal of the crowd seems to be older, and this town appears to be small, it reminds me of Mayberry. With that it’s you can’t really compare mainstream 1940s with that of Mayberry towns, thogh some of the culture remains, it doesn’t mean things like smoking is widely as accepted.

    …I would like to point out one last time that hipsters were common in the 1940s, and the style of dress was on par with modern hipsters, but a little less store bought and mass manufactered.

    The old guy and the time trevelers angle, ……they are both making gestures pointing to the guy pushing through the crowd. The old guy in the glasses if eye ballign him out the corner of his eye, moving shoulder ever so slightly and the time traveler is turning towards him. It looks weird from our prespective, but imagien yourself in this situation. You’re holding your camera to prevent it from falling, some guy is pushing through the crowd, you turn to give him room.


    With all that said, I’d like to point out how happy the people in the forefront are, no one else in the crowd seems to be happy and jeering. I believe the guy near the car is speaking with the people behind him, made a funny and turned away. Even the girl supposedly looking at the traveler, I now believe is looking towards the laughter.

    Also if you really want a time traveler, I’d lean more towards the guy smack dab in the middle of the picture infront of the girl, his jacket seems a little out of place

  119. mjt April 19th, 2010 1:15 pm

    The line of cars are obviously awaiting the opening of the
    new bridge. After the opening ceremonies, it would be obvious
    (to me, anyway) folks will want to drive across the new bridge
    in celebration, and to get on with business as usual.

    As far as no one smoking – examine the other photos in the
    collection – I don’t see anyone smoking (well, maybe one)
    in the other photos, even the “casual” photos.

    Why wouldn’t the crowd be excited for a bridge opening?
    Think about it … the original bridge was wiped out because
    of river flooding, which means the folks were mostly cut off.
    I’d be pretty excited to again be able to get to the other
    side of the river, or to have supplies delivered to my town,
    or to be able to provide supplies to the local mining towns.

    And no, it’s not a military event – it’s a celebration of the
    [re]opening of a bridge in a small and remote town. Heck, even
    today, Gold Bridge (town) has a population of about 250. Back
    in the day, it was a service center, supplying the local
    mining towns.

    As far as hats being de rigueur, again, check the other photos
    in the collection. The “other” photo of the bridge opening event
    shows men without hats, among other photos during that period.

  120. joey April 19th, 2010 1:39 pm

    I’ve seen a lot of shops in my time, you can tell by the pixels . . .

  121. Damon April 19th, 2010 2:09 pm

    Obviously fake. Look at all the faces of people that are in the same orientation as his. The face shadows are “real” people in the photo clearly show sunlight on the cheek area. His does not.

  122. Mike April 19th, 2010 3:11 pm

    Hello all. I’m a highly trained and experienced graphic artist who does perform photographic insertions using photoshop CS4 and I can tell you right now that this man is not inserted into the picture. Furthermore, it would appear that the “stamped” logo on his shirt is indeed embossed, like the example provided in this article. The “camera” that he’s clearly holding with BOTH hands and not with the help from the gentleman who’s to his right is indeed some kind of box camera. My grandmother owned one that required you to hold it in such a fashion unlike the one listed in the article as an example.

    Someone earlier had mentioned that the glasses he’s wearing are “glacier glasses” and I’d agree with that person as well as I have extensive experience in mountain climbing and have used glacier glasses before, in fact if I look hard enough I’m sure I can dig them up out of storage. The point is simple, not everyone back then wore the same clothes. This guy is clearly younger than most of the people standing around him and I would guess he simply didn’t feel like getting all duded up for a meager reopening of a bridge in his local township.

    I swear, some people just want something so much that they’re willing to fabricate any and all reasons regardless of how idiotic they may or may not be. Keep digging crazies, you’re bound to find something out there, right?

  123. Kevin April 19th, 2010 3:22 pm

    Com’on — it’s Photoshopped. The hand with the camera is obviously the guy “behind” him — that’s not his hand or the sleeve of his jacket/sweater. And look at the blurring on the sleeve of the woman “next” to him… Well done Photoshopping, but that’s all it is.

  124. WIllKozak April 19th, 2010 4:21 pm

    Hello, McFly!

  125. Emily Mader April 19th, 2010 4:49 pm

    I remember the forties well as I was married in 1945.. My husband is 6’3,, My brother in law was 6’4. Lots of tall men around. Smoking in public by women was not done until towards the end of the war. Definitely not in smalltown Canada. Time traveller resembles my cousin in his looks. Not all men had the Brylcreme look. Long hair was a definite no-no, as was a bearded look. Ladies wore hats for the most part. I know I did for dress occassions but we let our hair flow free most of the time. That is we youngsters did. Thanks for the memory. Emme

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  127. Mo's Bike Shop April 19th, 2010 6:02 pm

    Same site, similar sweater, guy on the right:

    http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/CommunityMemories/ABYC/000a/image/original/ABYC000a00c9.jpg

    That outfit looks typical of 40s-era skiers. The ‘M’ looks like a Charlie Brown zig-zag stripe to me.

  128. hannahkate April 19th, 2010 6:06 pm

    Hi, there are a lot of comments to look through here, so I just thought I’d ask instead…did anyone ever find the picture that was mentioned about the guy with the mohawk before the punk era?

    I am now hooked on this idea and would like to see it. Any info would be great! Thanks!

  129. length=distance April 19th, 2010 6:18 pm

    could the reason for the glasses and the unusual clothing be that hes blind and the hand of the other man is his guie restraining him in the crowd?
    That may also explain why hes staring in to the middle distance

  130. Adam April 19th, 2010 6:27 pm

    On the second background, there is a man in glasess, and is women too behind him. She to look time traveler straight in the face. Why ? Why she look at him ? She’s surprised and fascinate. I’am not shore but this is not a sunglasess it’s look’s like 3D vision, the same glasess like in 3D cinemas :)

  131. Rick April 19th, 2010 6:44 pm

    Let’s say the guy is a time traveler, then 1) Is he a scientist working on the project? If he is, and has the capability to travel through time, wouldn’t he also take a moment to think, “oh, I better dress to blend in”? 2) If the time traveler is not a scientist, but was sent by scientists, why would they choose a hipster doofus, from among a long list (no doubt) of candidates? 3) If the time traveler is dressed like we would in our time, does that mean he is from our time, and we have a time travel machine? 4) Were scientists from the future (to us) trying to send a guy back to our time, so they dressed him like a hipster doofus to blend in, but they overshot and sent him back to the 1940’s? The guy does look a little bewildered.

  132. l911 April 19th, 2010 7:01 pm

    this foto is amazing but im sure that no one is taking it serious (time traveler-ha)
    The hand that look like another man arm is his arm he is wearning west and Sleeves have different colour.
    camera is old but still this foto is amazing you can see that this guy was an individualist, sunglasses and he is dressed differently from everyone
    could be considered that it was a poor man and thats why he look like this (different)
    but in hand he have (probably) expensive small camera.

  133. Michael April 19th, 2010 7:49 pm

    I think the look, while uncommon for a photo of the period, is not unacceptable. Remember, we know very little about the exact circumstances surrounding this event. I do, however, when looking at the photo get a vague suspicion that the tonality and texture of his portion of this image is different than that of the surrounding photograph. Something is off, but it’s not anything I can quantify since, while different looking, he doesn’t seem radically out-of-place.

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  136. javamama April 19th, 2010 9:32 pm

    just couldn’t leave the moron vs. moran arguement alone..lol :)
    moran: The preferred method of spelling “moron” by morons, particularly that of a Missouri redneck at a rally supporting the US led war in Iraq.
    found this one at the link you used to support your use of the word moran

  137. Shirley April 19th, 2010 9:35 pm

    It’s clear that this is a hoax. If you look at the size of the man in the picture compared to all the others, he has an enormous head and the body is too big. He is different in all respects to those around him body wise. The camera really doesn’t look that new for the era.
    Think whoever did this photo was before his time.

  138. Angie April 19th, 2010 9:46 pm

    Here is another photo of the event — from the back — the tall “time traveler” looks to be in the front left — from what I can see.

    http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/john_wihksne/2006/dads_years_album/file0071.jpg

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  140. off road motorcycle dude April 19th, 2010 10:03 pm

    Not to burst everyones bubble – this fellows letter is an M. It stands for a spanish built off road motercycle called a Montesa! they were popular amomg the dirt bike croud in the 60s-70s. along with others such as- puch,penton,zundapp,husky, ect-ect. Montesa builds world class trials motorcycles now. here is another angle to ponder – lots of folks are into retro clothing with the names of old europen dirt bikes emblems on them at the present time. This is not a hipster. he is a off road motorcycle dude. I am 51- rode dirt bikes at 6 years old, I can sorta tell one when I see one ya know??

  141. dave April 19th, 2010 10:24 pm

    I sent a message do not know if it made the trip sooo- here we go agan. This fellow is wearing a black tee shirt. The letter is a M. It stands for Montesa, a very popular brand of off road motorcycle in the 60s-70s. They are still building world class trials motorcycles today. Lots of offroad motorcycle people enjoy wearing retro clothing- with the famous brands of the day- penton, sachs, zunndapp,husky,ect-ect. I have rode dirtbikes from the age of 6, I am 51 now- can spot em a mile away you know? he is not a mountian climber- he is a dirt biker. Is it real? who knows- from what time frame? who knows– Just something else to ponder you see?? Thanks for reading this — have a good day- Dave.

  142. Eric Fields April 19th, 2010 10:54 pm

    Passes the Error Level Analysis Results test, though maybe it doesn’t detect analog retouching? http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/0150313/

  143. Steven Simpson April 19th, 2010 11:55 pm

    The guy’s name is Andrew Meyers. He’s our contemporary. He does time travel, not for any good reason, just to avoid his creditors.

    If you see him in the present, please contact me through my email here. He owes me money.

    Thanks.

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  145. Ronan April 20th, 2010 6:00 am

    Surely, if this is a photo from a museum exhibit, it’s likely they may also have the negative. That would go some way to putting this item to bed.

  146. teaboy April 20th, 2010 7:57 am

    He stands out to us because he looks to be dressed in quite a modern way, but no-one in the picture is paying him any notice at all. This would suggest that he fits in and is dressed in a way which is recognisable to people at the time.

    If he were a time traveller from our time (or from the foreseeable future) the time travelling would be conducted by myriad professers of physics who are working for the government , they would take great care to make sure he fitted in and didn’t draw attention. He would probably look like a respectable gemtleman in a smart suit. He would not look like some pothead who made a time machine in his garrage dude!.

    As for this nonsence about the light being wrong, you can clearly see if he were to look this way a little the side of his face would be illuminated just like other peoples and the shadow of his ear would be much shorter. Also if you study the angle of the shadows they all generally point in the same direction.

    The bigger question in this photo is, five peoples’ heads to the left of our time traveller, what is Cptn James T. Kirk doing there???

  147. belh4wk April 20th, 2010 8:02 am

    the sweater is actually not with buttons but with a zipper.
    the t-shirt definately looks like a t-shirt and the logo looks nothing like the one on the sweater you showed for comparison.

    Also, even if all the items were available at the time, the way the person combines them, the style he has, it’s definately not of that time…

    Also, look at the age difference, except for the younger girl in the background, most people in the pic are older than 40 or even elderly

    I’d have to hear the guy say he is a timetraveller first to believe it too, but some arguments aren’t really valid when trying to say he isn’t…

    it’s a nice thought though :p timetravel…

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  151. Steve W April 20th, 2010 10:47 am

    The left hand is the hand of an older man. It can’t be a man standing behind him, it’s wrapped around his torso. Fake I say.

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  153. Chris April 20th, 2010 11:39 am

    The real question is, why would someone travel back through time to visit a bridge re-opening? Shouldn’t he be looking for Hitler’s grandfather or something?

  154. Micah April 20th, 2010 1:02 pm

    Check out the Wikipedia entry on the ghost town of Bralorne, BC, where the photo was most likely taken:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bralorne,_British_Columbia

    It seems to have been a thriving community at that time, and definitely a place that would have attracted lots of eccentric types.

  155. Reef Prooder April 20th, 2010 2:43 pm

    Our “time traveler” was obviously a motorcyclist – explains the ruffled, windblow hair; protective eyewear and casual attire.

  156. David V April 20th, 2010 4:41 pm

    Time Traveler? I can’t say, but that is definitely a MICHIGAN block M.

    It could be a letterman sweater.

  157. jim April 20th, 2010 4:43 pm
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  159. Matt Egger April 20th, 2010 6:37 pm

    @JohnC – ok, it’s not near the rockies, rather the Coast Mountains I guess. In any case, it’s in the mountains. Glacier glasses are made for snowy conditions. They don’t necessarily need to be worn on a glacier.

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  161. Flurbis Toungdangley April 20th, 2010 7:27 pm

    Of course the man is a time traveler. Why else would Walter Skinner – AD of the FBI and the guy who oversees the X-Files – be standing right beside him?

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  163. evie April 20th, 2010 8:14 pm

    This was fun to read–thanks.

  164. Mori April 20th, 2010 8:17 pm

    Excellent! We can’t be sure if it’s our hipster “time traveller”, but it sure is a good find, thank you!

  165. […] the power and the wisdom of Internet people. After more than 100k hits to the hipster “time traveller” in 1940 story, comes the comment from Angie who found another photo of the South Fork bridge reopening… […]

  166. Mr.Jade Cadelina April 20th, 2010 10:00 pm

    Yes!! George Lucas was inspired by this old 1942 photo of an X-Wing landing on an US aircraft carrier. :D
    http://i.imgur.com/B0CsT.jpg

  167. Mudhooks April 20th, 2010 10:02 pm

    Yeah… a guy shows up in wartime Canada “supposedly” dressed like no one else, “supposedly” carrying a compact camera” in the middle of a small town and “no one notices”????

    1) He doesn’t look out of the ordinary (that is a Letterman” sweater worn by every university jock in North America, those are sports sunglasses worn by skiers and outdoorsmen –including my father in the day–, and that is an ordinary fold-out camera).

    2) No one seems to notice he “looks out of the ordinary” and, believe me, in a small town in Canada in the 1940s anyone who stood out would be stared at like a sacred cow wandering down Main Street.

    3) Why would a time traveller show up in the middle of a crowd “supposedly” looking out of the ordinary. Seems to me, he would be trying to blend in, not stand out.

    The fact is, he’s not a time-traveller (because there is no such thing) and anyone who thinks he is is an idiot.

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  169. Peter Richards April 20th, 2010 10:42 pm

    It is George Thomson, he worked at Bralorne Mines. He is wearing his safety goggles that he used when handling molten metals, he is wearing a knitted cardigan over the top of a Montreal Maroons hockey shirt. John Wihksne has some other photos of George. The camera is hard to identify, could be a Leica III or similar in its case.

  170. Anmol April 21st, 2010 1:49 am

    his face is too big. according to the proportions of the body, his feet should be inside the ground. IMO this is a hoax. the editor guy did a good job at matching the lighting of the original scene. but the man is way out of proportion. i think this is because the editor wanted to hide some parts of the original photo as well as the man’s photo so that we cannot see the anomalies.

  171. ED April 21st, 2010 2:19 am

    CLose up the hair… looks like two persons, the guy in this pic the dark hair, over a blonde hair, on the top… photoshop

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  173. Bee April 21st, 2010 8:24 am

    Did somebody mention the haircut? Definitly 40’s.

  174. Megapixel40 April 21st, 2010 10:38 am

    I would have to say that I do belive that there may be something to this picture (1 The glasses are not of that time.(2 The camera is also out of place it seems to be a newer modle of telephotolense that is 1 smaller and 2 it does not appeare to have to be buled out by hand as most of the cameras from that time.(3 Men in that particular time piriod did not wear there wear there hair like that even younger men of that time used some kind of grease in there hair.(4 As another person had pointed out,the young lady was definitly stareing at the man as if amazed by his appearence.(5 If this was a gathering for the opening of a new bridge why on gods earth would she be fixated on this man unless there were something about him that seemed a little out of place to her.So now I must say that all things are possible wheather we want to believe it or not case and point The Philidelphia expieriment or did most of you forget that.All that said maybe there is some truth to this photo.Stranger things in life have been known to happen so this can’t truely be impossible.

  175. dave April 21st, 2010 1:51 pm

    Here i am agan – This is like a person laying on ther back in a field looking at puffy clouds – look a horsey- and theres a big bird – and a — But look at the vertical shadow on the dudes neck, its sharp- all the other shadows are soft- kinda fuzzy.

  176. M April 21st, 2010 2:41 pm

    Doctor?

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  178. Scott April 21st, 2010 7:05 pm

    Some of the technical anomalies (shadows, contrast, etc.) can possibly be attributed to slow shutter speed. I see several faces that look slightly blurry, which for a stationary crowd would suggest a shutter speed of 1/15th or so. I suspect our time traveler was moving his head at the moment the picture was snapped.

  179. Oh dear April 21st, 2010 9:43 pm

    jum1801, it might be an idea for you to check out the source material first. Then you won’t look like an idiot.

  180. isilverman April 21st, 2010 9:53 pm

    Why does everyone keep saying that the woman is looking at him? Follow her line of sight. If anything, she is staring at something further away, and in the line of sight in front of him.

  181. Dave April 21st, 2010 9:55 pm

    Lets have some fun – this photo is full of time travelers, others have noted people from the x files – ect, check out the tall female with the big hat, she is holding her hat with her right hand – in the last row of people to the right rear of the suspect dude, see her? ya know who that is? recall the wizard of oz movie? the scene where the house landed in oz? that lady in this photo is the whicked witch that the house landed on!! Its a shame we cannot see her feet in this photo because if she is wearing the ruby slippers, this photo would have to been shot before the movie!! aaaa – on 2nd thought- if she is a time traveler this silly fable is a moot point!!! enjoy the ride everyone!! I must go – its time for Totos din-din!!

  182. Robin Shadowes April 22nd, 2010 2:29 am

    Everyone is noticing his shirt and the sweater but am I the only one who appears to have noticed that it looks like a hoodie? Notice the string in front of his left shoulder and it looks like a hood at the back of his neck which he tries to hide with sweater. I don’t know when the hoodie was invented but I kinda doubt it was around in 1940.

    A also remember my parents who where kids at the time once said that hats was the norm both for males and females. Going outdoors bareheaded was a big no-no back then. Which doesn’t mean people where on occasion caught bareheaded though.

    Commenting on the Batman-emblem, originally the bat logo was against the grey background. The yellow oval background didn’t come until much later. I Can’t pinpoint any special year but a fair guess is perhaps the early 60’s or something like that. However, I don’t think it looks like a Batman emblem but an M as most people also perceive it as. If it was a Batman logo with a yellow oval background, then he would certainly be out of time.

    To comment on Cat’s comments, I saw a movie a couple of months ago. It wasn’t sci-fi but more like a romantic drama. It wasn’t Kate & Leopold although I can’t remember the title. I think it was Gerard Butler who played the leading role so you could check it out on ImdB. This guy didn’t use a time machine but shifted spontaneously similar to the guy in Journeyman.
    I think I might time-shift myself from time to time. In my case it is not like I wake up in a different century or even decade. It’s more like shifting time-lines. The time is the same so to speak, same year, day, month and week and such but on a different time-line. I wouldn’t have even noticed if it weren’t for small details. It’s hard to explain but it just feels weird. But gosh, I wish I could travel spontanously to other periods in time like in Journeyman but only farther than in that series. That would be cool but only if I could return back home again of course. Wouldn’t be as fun to be stuck in France during the revolution or during the witch trials lol.

  183. efectotequila.com April 22nd, 2010 1:00 pm

    ¿Viajero en el tiempo en foto de 1940? [ING]…

    Una foto de una inauguración de un puente en canada en 1940 aparentemente captura la imagen de una persona ‘adelantada’ en su tiempo……

  184. Mr Ecko April 22nd, 2010 3:05 pm

    Yemi was right. We had to keep pressing the button.

  185. Marco April 22nd, 2010 7:01 pm

    about the sweather and the M, i was looking for old photos from Montreal Maroons, http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nhl/mtlmar/maroonspics.html and like another tells the typography is different. But, not in all the years, if u looks fine, u’ll can see that 1924-1930 logo is diferent font that the anothers ( http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nhl/mtlmar/CBenedictMar.jpg )

  186. Michael April 22nd, 2010 7:06 pm

    Please take a look at the young man on the far right of another photo from the same museum from 1937.

    The sweater looks very similar.

    The lines which accompany the picture are

    “1937 on steps of Pioneer Community Hall”

    “Sports and recreation was important to the young children and teenagers as well as the adults. There were youth clubs, hobby clubs, dances and other events in the community hall.”

    http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm.php?id=display_original&lg=English&fl=0&rd=124482

  187. novatillasku April 23rd, 2010 7:46 am

    Por que dicen que el brazo no es de él?..si se fijan la chaqueta de lana que lleva lleva el cuerpo jaspeado y el cuello y las mangas son en liso oscuro.Al estar tocado la camara perfectamente el brazo puede tener esa posición.
    De todas formas respecto a la camiseta no habrá fotos de la época con ese emblema?seguramente podrían encontrarse.
    Muy interesante,de verdad.Un saludo!

  188. Linda Cain April 23rd, 2010 1:48 pm

    A couple things I noticed: ALL the other men in the pic are wearing suits or at least a suit jacket. Regardless of whether his clothes are authentic for the time, it is NOT appropriate for whatever this event is. The shadows on his face are very distinctive like from an object. Shadows on the others are not so defined. In my opinion it is a bogus photo.

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  190. Stan Koren April 23rd, 2010 3:29 pm

    Do you think could it be Howard Hughes?

    After listening to a bright P.H.d. student analyze the photo and deciding that the glasses and camera were consistent with the period and the hair and clothing seem consistent with a motorcycle rider you are simply left with a tall slender adult man who rides a motorcycle and doesn’t mind looking eccentric in a crowd and is interested enough in engineering to take a picture of a bridge. I suddenly formed an idea that I had seen that face before. Hadn’t Hughes been out west a lot?

    Howard Hughes was born in 1905. That would have made him 35 in 1940 which I think looks like the age of the man in the photo. If you look at this photo of him at roughly the same angle seen dancing with Ginger Rogers; the hairline, nose, ears, chin and height seem to match.

    http://img3446.imagevenue.com/images/loc523/34332_0772_2294_122_523lo.jpg

    http://www.squidoo.com/howardhughes

    What was he doing there? Looking for gold likely (Edison turned up in Sudbury Canada looking for Nickel once) and looking like a University grad just off of a motorcycle maybe. A company called Hughes Exploration Group discovered a rich goldmine in Bralorne B.C. the supposed site of the picture (perhaps a coincidence). He was a world traveler also.

    What do you think?

    All the best. Nice coverage of story I thought.

  191. micheal April 23rd, 2010 4:05 pm

    It’s a fake. The camera in front of him is being held by the man behind him. So who ever did this, the lighting is great. Why they didn’t just delete the camera from the image I’m not sure, maybe to let those people in on the joke.

    I can say the lighting is better then the “Moon landing” pics for sure. Lighting always gives fakes away…

  192. Andrew April 23rd, 2010 4:37 pm

    I’d be more worried that Superintendant Skinner is standing to his left…

  193. Chris April 23rd, 2010 6:08 pm

    What about the shadow on his neck, with a peak on it. This is coming from his collar. Therefore there is a light source coming from below his shoulder and shining upwards.

  194. Kratom April 24th, 2010 12:16 am

    The biggest mystery here is why anyone would come to the conclusion that this dude/hipster is a time traveler? I mean why would that be a conclusion to come to? Just because he has some fashion sense don’t mean he comes from the future. I see dudes dressed in 50’s style all the time these days don’t mean they traveled from the past does it!

  195. pligg.com April 24th, 2010 3:28 pm

    Tidsreisende på fotografi fra 1940-tallet?…

    Sannsynligvis ikke, men det er definitivt kult med folk som skiller seg litt ut :) Noen som vet hvor man får tak i sånne solbriller?…

  196. harryandthehendersans April 25th, 2010 4:17 am

    I imagine the Museum came up with the idea that he is a time traveler.

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  198. Sandy April 25th, 2010 7:31 pm

    What? There is no strange arm—that’s his sweater. That’s his hand and nothing in this photo is out of place for the period. And I just wasted time.

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  201. Bruno Mexxo April 26th, 2010 2:37 pm

    So… you’re saying this ISN’T proof of time travel? wow.

  202. Chas April 26th, 2010 6:55 pm

    COMPLETELY FAKE!

    As a decent amateur photographer, I can tell you right away that this image is a complete fake.

    The lighting on that man does not fit the surroundings. For starters, he’s a lot taller than the people around him and there is no one directly behind him which is where the lighting is coming from in the rest of the picture, and yet, his face shows partial shadowing except for right under the sunglasses and along the bottom of his face under his ears. Also notice that people further to the left in the image have their faces completely lit up…so what’s causing the shadowing on his face when it’s obvious that with others it usually from someone taller standing behind them (which as I’ve said is not the case with him)?

    Notice the guy directly behind him, also tall, has his whole face lit-up. If this picture were in fact real, the man’s face would be lit up as well so sorry folks, but the image is most definitely fake.

  203. Cheyenne April 26th, 2010 8:00 pm

    i think there is a possibility that this picture could mean anything. i have to say, it did influence me greatly and i like it.
    maybe it real, maybe not.
    maybe some of you should not be so close minded, think outside of the box.

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  205. […] A Time Traveller! Something that has sparked some discussion on the internet recently, it seems, is the apparent spotting of a time traveller in a 1940s photograph. I just heard about it because Harpo posted a link on Facebook and I have mercilessly stolen it (mwahaha). So, take a lookee. A guy in sunglasses, knitted top, a sweatshirt/shirt with an M on the front and a camera in his hands looking decidedly out of place. Finally, some proof of a Time Traveller? The event is the opening of a bridge after flooding which cut the town for a while. People have wondered why a Time Traveller turned up to that particular point. A little mudane, right? Time Travellers should be appearing in the much more historically important events. Of course, something significant could have occurred here, that this plucky individual diverted and thus we'll never know of it… Obviously there's lots of counter argument about why this person can look out of place and still be a normal 1940ser. But I thought I'd post it, this being a SFF forum and I can't help being intrigued by anything odd and out of the ordinary and the discussion it sparks. The link: Is This a Time Traveller? And another site that deconstructs the photo a little more: Time Traveler Caught in Museum Photo? | forgetomori […]

  206. mjt April 27th, 2010 5:43 pm

    The “brightness” of the light on the traveler’s face is in
    concert with the rest of the folks. The difference in contrast
    Chas is referring to depends on placement of each person. The
    contrast of light for the traveler is in concert with a number
    of other folks in the photo.

    It’s important to take note of the angle of the head with those
    in the photo who have a similar angle.

    BTW – here’s a “photo of the photo”:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/2/2d/20100324114459!South_Fork_Bridge_re-opening_crowd.jpg

    And a second “BTW”, did no one check the Error Level Analysis:
    http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/1ef0c43/

    I might even suggest this is him:
    http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=display_original&lg=English&fl=0&rd=117618&ex=00000470

    Same ears, jaw-structure, and possibly, mole.

  207. […] o restante da história aqui: forgetomori.com (em […]

  208. […] folks at  the blog forgetomori outline a perfectly reasonable explanation: the sunglasses, clothing, and camera were all available back then.  A reader even uncovered a […]

  209. itschrome April 28th, 2010 10:44 am

    I’m a time traveler! I’m from the past and have discovered the ability to travel forwards in time, Unfortunately only at a rate of 1 millionth of a second faster than every one else.. still I’m pretty proud of my self..

  210. HenryR April 28th, 2010 6:58 pm

    It’s young John Kerry. This also explains how he was in Cambodia that Christmas Eve when no one else in his outfit was.

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  214. MJ April 29th, 2010 2:53 pm

    Here’s why I think it’s a photoshop fake: if you look at the Guy with the Glasses (GG) (who some comments have said looks like Mitch Pileggi) you will see that between GG and Fake-Time-Travel-Guy (FTTG) there are supposedly two more people standing there. However, if you look at the people standing in front of GG and FTTG, you will see there is not that much room. The woman with the dark hat is in front of FTTG and there’s only space for one person (older woman) before the person in front of GG (grumpy woman).

    In other words, FTTG is actually occupying the same space as the person originally in the photo at that location, whose head, ear, and hat are visible over FTTG’s left shoulder.

  215. jupiter9 April 29th, 2010 3:59 pm

    Stan Koren, I love the Howard Hughes theory! Not sure it is him, but it could be.

    The dude hopped on his motorcycle (or in his plane!) to see the opening. He left his helmet (leather) on the motorcycle and ran over to take the picture. It’s early morning; he didn’t bother to Brylcreem his hair.

    The pointed shadow is of his neck tendons. He’s skinny.

    Young men’s hair styles 1940:

    http://www.life.com/image/53371678
    http://schoolbusdriver.org/bball.jpg

    CCC typing class in 1933, it’s not like a hairstyle seven years out of date is embarrassing (esp. for a bridge geek):
    http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2010/01/CCC_typing_class.jpg

    In fact anyone saying that all men’s hair then was short would then have to claim that the young man nearer the front is also a fake.

  216. jupiter9 April 29th, 2010 5:19 pm
  217. Lars April 30th, 2010 7:39 am

    It’s the French DJ Terrence Fixmer. I had no idea he was also a time traveller! http://mixing.dj/files/djs/Terence_Fixmer.jpg

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  220. Avi April 30th, 2010 12:53 pm

    I find it interesting that this guy seems so out of place, yet no one is staring at him. You’d think if there was someone truly that out of the ordinary in the crowd, people would notice him there and at least one of them couldn’t help but stare. Yet they all seem oblivious to him and completely focused on the bridge opening.

  221. […] Traveler Caught in Museum Photo Found this: Time Traveler Caught in Museum Photo? | forgetomori So what do you think? Is it a time traveler? Photoshop? Anyway I found it pretty amusing. […]

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  223. Nick Bentley April 30th, 2010 8:50 pm

    If you take photos of a crowd today, and hold onto it for 50 years, there’s likely going to be someone who looks “ahead of their time” with fashion and accessories that will be popular in 50 years. I just can’t read into this anything more than he wore clothes that were only mainstream many years later.
    Nobody in the crowd is even paying notice to him. He’s just a guy who happens to dress different from anyone at the time. If anyone could bend time and space, I think they’d have more important things to do.

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  225. […] som valgte å besøke Canada i 1940? Det tok ikke langt tid før nettet ga oss svaret: nei. Det var fullt mulig for en mann å se slik ut på denne […]

  226. John Peniel May 1st, 2010 11:29 pm

    Ok first of all, if this were a fake, don’t you think that the person or people who did it would have made it a little more obvious that it was a time traveler? I’d have him wearing or holding something that was way less controversial as to what time era it came from.

    secondly the wrap around shades were not popular back then and the photo above that shows them in a movie… those are not wrap around shades… look closer and you’ll notice that that’s just the shadow of the glass on her face.

    The camera is not an old camera like noted in the other photo because you can clearly see the smooth glare on the camera that clearly defines that it is not an accordion type fold happening there.

    The shirt is not a popular school lettering shirt because these were always sown on…. this shirt that he is wearing is not sown but rather printed… not to mention that it is not the correct type of shirt that is used for lettering like that.

    nevertheless, nothing here looks out of time as if to suggest that this is a time traveler or a hoax. It’s just a coincidence.

  227. Sana May 2nd, 2010 1:52 pm

    where is his lef shoulder? considring the angle which is standing we have to be able to see his left shoulder specially the man behind him pushing him.The Man behind him can’t position himself in such a small place and the perspective and dimensions are not matching and his head and face looks much bigger than every one else even in comparasion to those people who are closer to camera.
    It looks so fake!

  228. sana May 2nd, 2010 1:55 pm

    I meant his right shoulder!

  229. JoeTitor May 3rd, 2010 12:39 am

    Just at quick glance, It seems faked to me. He really stands out. He looks a bit large (notice he looks more in the foreground than the lady in front of him). Looks like he must be standing on the shoes of the man seen behind his neck.

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  232. The Time Traveler | Aeonn May 4th, 2010 12:13 am

    […] Forgetomori checks it out. Given the source, we would assume the photo is authentic, and correctly dated to c.1940. Indeed, an Error Level Analysis suggests the image was not digitally tampered with, or at least that if it was, the author was smart enough to normalize the error across the whole thing. It’s a good job, if it was a job. And again, given the source, we would assume it was not a job. […]

  233. […] has an extensive analysis of the photo and the mystery man, and, with some help from members of ATS, points out that no […]

  234. Mimi Flynn May 5th, 2010 5:33 pm

    I think the sleeves to his sweater are black, much like the weird old sweaters you can find in thrift stores and old attics.

  235. […] Time Traveler Caught in Museum Photo? | forgetomori […]

  236. […] speaking, this one looks to be wishful thinking, but it’s an interesting read. Thanks to Shayne in Atlanta for the […]

  237. Lars May 8th, 2010 12:33 am

    The reason this guy looks so “hip” is because the global recession has caused todays fashion world to look back in time for ideas. His haircut and clothes is therfore, much like young people dress today.

    The REALLY interesting thing about this picture, is un my opinion thay nobody has noticed the retarded lion in the background.

    Keep looking…look closer…There you go. No rip out your own eyes before you die of amusement.

  238. […] Shore wander through a Mad Men episode but there it is. To learn more read the excellent article by Forgetomori as they attempt to explain whether it is a time traveler, a prank, or proof that 1940s fashion […]

  239. […] http://forgetomori.com/2010/fortean/time-traveler-caught-in-museum-photo/ dziwne zdjecie z 1940/41 ukazuj?ce posta? nie z tej epoki (podro?nika w czasie?) […]

  240. […] That brings us to the photo at left.  It’s like the beginning of a Crichton novel.  A figure is noted in a historical photo who doesn’t appear to belong.  Proof of something more?  Take a look and decide for yourself – forgetomori has a fantastic breakdown. […]

  241. Ben McGee May 10th, 2010 5:18 am

    While I haven’t had a chance to wade through all of the comments, yet, I just wanted to comment that this is a fantastic article. Secondly, the museum image is certainly not a fake. I’ve done enough video analysis in my day to determine that without a doubt in my mind. -Perspective and blending are perfect, as is the angle of the shadow on the “hipster’s” face being cast by his ear.

    Also, at first glance, the “phantom” hand also seems pretty obvious – the man to the side and slightly behind our suspect is either in the process of handing off or taking back the camera. Why? Our hipster appears to be pretty tall compared to the crowd. Why not hand him your camera to help take a picture over everyone’s heads?

    Two cents.

  242. Dmitry May 11th, 2010 5:27 am

    I found this camera! Zeiss Ikon Nettar http://www.lyndrup.dk/ken/Engelsk/Zeiss-Ikon/Nettar% 20515-2% 20E.htm. Released to production in the 30 th years

  243. anonymouser May 12th, 2010 3:41 pm

    The girl top left is staring at his camera, must be something new or “futuristic” for her. At least one person could have imagined the guy came from the future.

  244. Gondolier May 13th, 2010 6:26 pm

    First – this dood has Jimmy Stewart hair – 1 pt for period
    Second – his glasses are glaciers – think Hillary – 1 pt period
    Third – chica is not looking at him, she is looking past him at someone likely she knows or wants to bang – point for period
    Fourth – that rug he is wearing over the letterman sweatshirt was very thriftstore hip for the time – think wooly vest – period for sure
    Fifth – lighting on his hair is being diffused due to the unkempt nature of the top of his mop likely wind blown – its not laying even – so hard to reflect the light in any one direction – already got a point for the hair but had to bring up again and wont take a point.
    Sixth – again lighting – look at the dood in the hat who is also tall – lighting on his face is same – bright on neck with shadow off ear is same – point for period and yes there were tall people back in the 40s.
    Last – he’s a hipster student of the period – a time traveler would be wearing bright pink and green spandex with two welded metal forks as glasses – think Wendy-O of the Plasmatics – if have any idea of what I am talking about.

    5 Points – Canada wins for authentic picture – cool site – l8r

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  249. Sam May 15th, 2010 5:02 pm

    Where is the light source that casts the shadow under his chin.

    See:
    http://imgur.com/JydjI.png

  250. Thoughts for April – Scott Brown May 16th, 2010 11:43 pm

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  251. Rog May 17th, 2010 12:31 pm

    RE the “ear shadow” — it’s not an ear shadow, saddos, he has a shadow down the whole side of his face, like everyone else. The light in front of his ear is a reflection of the overhead sun off the earpiece inserts on his sunglasses (prob glacier glasses, they had either sunglass material (i.e. shiny) or opaque material with zillions of little holes for better peripheral vision.

  252. zeke weber May 18th, 2010 9:19 am

    there is just something about him that makes him look like he is for the future, his hair and just the way his face structure looks. his t-shirt looks like a band t-shirt/ all cotton t-shirt

  253. nikita chatwin May 18th, 2010 1:42 pm

    ok so i live in this small town. it is very different today than it was then. todays pop. 60 in the greater area around this time (1940) around 16000. for one i don’t think there is anyone in the town that is capable of tampering with an image or that would even consider doing that. Bralorne and the surrounding areas were apart of the great canadian gold rush. The mines there were some of the most productive gold mines in north america and there is one still in operation today. Needless to say lots of different people have traveled through this town since then and now. It is not situated in the rockies as someone here has suggested but in the coast caribou mtns. The mountains surrounding Bralorne are legendary in their own right and yes it is very likely that he could be wearing glacier glasses. Or perhaps he worked in one of the many mines. You would have trouble getting ahold of the museum at this time because its closed in the off season. You can contact the Mineshaft Pub one of the only buissneses in town if you wanted to speak to people, its a REALLY small place. the museum is amazing there and the towns people are very protective over it, so it would be hard to imagine this photo getting tampered with. Ive spent lots of time there and the photo looks pretty similar to all the rest. there were also many men that worked full days underground in the mine (it went town 28ish flrs) and were as a result very sensitive to light. Maybe thats why hes wearing those glasses.

  254. Lev Hudson May 23rd, 2010 1:49 am

    While it’s true that time travel is possible (Apparently, they have sent a seed or something that size back less than a nanosecond in time :p), we still have a way to go before that mista Hipsta Goes Back Into the Past Happens. Who knows, could it true? Maybe. But hey, there are people who dressed “weirdly” back then as many of us do today! ;D

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  256. yass May 28th, 2010 2:24 am

    I read about this at the D.I. forum. I have a program called JPEGsnoop which checks the compression signatures on photos and will indicate if a photo has been edited in photoshop. This photo has not been edited in photoshop. I followed your links to the online museum and I could not find a trace of this photo. I tried using key words and flipped through many pages, however I did not come up with this picture.

    I was inclined to agree with you about the arms because it just appears as if they belong to whomever is standing behind him and are looped around his waist, but on closer inspection I see black trim along his collar and it’s not so unusual for a sleeve on a letterman’s jacket to be of a different color and material.

    [IMG]http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww114/unfathomable_album/ScreenShot003-10.jpg[/IMG]

    It may be cardigan and possible a sleeveless one, in which case the sleeves would be the same dark color as the shirt underneath.

    “A cardigan is a type of sweater (or jumper) that ties, buttons or zips down the front; by contrast, a pullover does not open in front but must be “pulled over” the head to be worn. It is usually machine- or hand-knitted from wool or cotton.”

    Here are a couple sites with pictures of vintage glasses that are similar to what this subject is wearing and they could possibly be driving, flying, motorcycle, or safety goggles.

    http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?s=ed8b120ba920dd0c2e9fde4d6c4af000&t=4451&page=17

    http://www.eyeglasseswarehouse.com/goggles3.html

    Except for not being able to find the photo posted at the Museum site… where I traveled not just from the links here but from a link posted at another site in which this topic was being discussed, I’m all fine thinking it’s not a time traveler but just a guy that’s not wearing a suit and tie like some, but sporting cloths and has on what are probably riding glasses… he kind of looks weathered and his hair looks wind blown at top. Maybe he made it over to the event on a motorcycle or a bicycle.

  257. Elliott May 28th, 2010 8:22 pm

    What’s actually scarier is the old man at the bottom right-hand corner of the photo: he appears to have no EYES!! :D

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  260. twosunsrising June 11th, 2010 8:01 pm

    It looks like an old football uniform. My dad had one, the number was only on the back. He fits into the crowd, despite his age.

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  262. Serge June 13th, 2010 1:42 pm

    Take note of the dark-haired young lady standing to the right of the T-shirt guy. While everyone is obviously absorbed looking at the opening ceremony, the young lady is casting a glance at the T-shirt guy’s attire or camera or both with obvious interest.

  263. Bralorne Pioneer Museum June 16th, 2010 1:31 am

    Sorry folks, I work at the Bralorne Pioneer Museum and I am 99% confident that this photo was not photoshopped.

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  265. Chris Phillips June 23rd, 2010 9:41 am

    The sunglasses are indeed genuine 1940s sunglasses. They are not curved wraparounds; they are in fact flat and square. The lenses are perfectly flat and so are the side pieces, which are made of dark clear plastic. The lenses are near triangluar in shape. The man’s eybrow darkens the sharp corners of these sunglasses, so they look curved in the picture. How do I know all this? I have the exact same model of sunglasses. They are marked Made in Canada. I always suspected they were 1940s, but this is the first time I have seen them in a 1940 picture. They turned up in a vintage clothing shop in New Zealand of all places.

  266. Hipster Time Traveler July 2nd, 2010 2:01 pm

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  267. We'll Find Out July 6th, 2010 2:50 pm

    i guess we’ll find out if this dude was a time traveler if those type of shades become popular in the future. either way, this dude has got some serious swag

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  269. shervin August 3rd, 2010 2:02 am

    Mori, the one detail you missed is the teenage girl gazing directly at this awesome guy. She is obviously fascinated with him. If you drew lines from her pupils they would be pointing directly at his sunglasses. Her right eye especially proves that she is not looking at the photographer. If he was inserted she would be looking lovingly into empty space or the old lady which is unlikely.

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  273. Eleanor White August 19th, 2010 4:39 pm

    Silk screened clothing has been around for a long time, it’s not recent technology.

  274. Katja August 30th, 2010 7:27 am

    Clearly, this is the Doctor saving the Universe.

    Ask Torchwood, they can confirm.

  275. James Random August 31st, 2010 7:00 pm

    If you look closely you’ll see that his ‘jacket’ is hooded. One one side you can see the lace hanging down. Either he’s wearing a hooded jacket beneath the woollen one, or they are both the same garments. Either way, hooded-jackets of that particular nature were not the vogue of the 1940’s outside of school football grounds.

    The T-shirt appears to be screen-printed. The ‘W’ is not any particular logo or brand I recognize from the 1940’s but then why would it? Graphic Design hadn’t been ‘Invented’ until the 1960’s when folk like Saul Bass and Paul Rand finally won over the commercial markets to the value of Graphic Design in branding and advertising.

  276. James Random August 31st, 2010 7:02 pm

    Also, given that the future is the future, we can assume that at some point someone will invent time travel (a question of when not if) on a level that could allow people to travel through time. So on the basis that there IS a future, we can assume that there ARE time travelers who WILL have come to the 20th and 21st centuries. QED.

  277. Tiger DeForrest September 4th, 2010 11:17 am

    Concerning the mentioned image of the so-called “mohawk time traveler” (visible at http://barfstew.blogspot.com/2010/09/mohawk-punk-time-traveler-caught-at.html), A capture and blow up of the image puts the entire mohawk haircut assumption into the “oops” category.

    The guy is simply bald, and the dark blob on top of his head is clearly the sleeve of the topcoat that has been tossed across the ship’s rigging behind his head.

  278. Tiger DeForrest September 4th, 2010 11:30 am

    sorry, I missed getting the necessary space between the html and the closing parenthesis, which is why the url doesn’t work

  279. Glenn September 4th, 2010 10:29 pm

    @ Katja: You win the Internetz!

    … but would this be his next regeneration? XD

  280. James Random September 5th, 2010 8:05 am

    Concerning the blogspot link: It is not a time traveler. The ‘mowhawk’ that the gentleman is wearing in the photograph was a typical fashion among the working classes of that era.

  281. t'mara September 5th, 2010 11:03 am

    the shadow from his ear is different than the gentleman behind him because their faces are at two different angles. also while he is no doubt a hipster doofus he would have to be cosmos’ father (if not grandfather.)

    all in all this was a great example of how belief and discussion can be generated by any baseless claim.

  282. Arlene September 5th, 2010 1:07 pm

    The ”time traveler” with the Mohawk: http://www.unexplainable.net/brainbox/uploads/1/UFO_room_3.jpg

    If you haven’t already found it.

  283. […] that the time-traveler hipster is the most viewed page here on Forgetomori, when I saw the time-traveler punk on Anomalist I just […]

  284. lisa September 8th, 2010 9:31 am
  285. aimee September 9th, 2010 10:29 pm

    i think he’s wearing a sweater vest and a hoodie underneath it. That’s why the right arm holding the camera looks like someone elses. it’s just his sweatshirt sleeve.

  286. Phil Cooper September 10th, 2010 3:37 pm

    Matt Eggar is correct. The man is a mountaineer, and he is wearing a pair of glacier glasses. I own a pair that I bought from Western Mountaineering in San Jose, California in the late 1970’s, and decades after the photo was taken they still looked about the same. Sorry, no time travelers here.

  287. R, Millhaps September 17th, 2010 3:37 am

    I LOVE this pic!

    I also like the way someone deconstructed his clothes. This was really classy deductive reasoning.

    I want to blow this pic up and frame it. Where can I get an eight by twelve print worthy pic?

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  289. Lisa October 3rd, 2010 9:38 pm

    I highly doubt the arm in question belongs to the man behind him. Has anyone considered that maybe the “nice sweater” is actually a vest? The sleeve of the arm looks like the undershirt, simple as that.

  290. […] forgetomori Time Traveler Caught in Museum Photo? “Reopening of the South Fork Bridge after flood in Nov. 1940. 1941 (?)” It’s the short description for the photograph shown at the virtual Bralorne Pioneer Museum, from British Columbia, Canada. The image can be seen specifically on this page (scroll down to the middle), among other items of the online exhibit. Did you notice anything out of place? Or perhaps, out of time? The man with what appears to be very modern sunglasses seems to be wearing a stamped T-shirt with a nice sweater, all the while holding a portable compact camera! Internet people reached to the obvious conclusion: it’s a time traveller caught on camera on 1940! Finally, we have proof! If the story seems straight out of a movie and the photo is in itself a great funny find, the most amusing thing i came up with while looking into this – as an Internet person, on the Internet – was the reply for a skeptical, or perhaps somewhat cynical comment on how spurious it would seem the idea that a time traveler would want to visit the reopening of a bridge in some small town in Canada. Read this on Doc Brown’s voice: “Of course, because we know nothing happened there right? But if we are considering time travel, how can we know if in some other timeline something historical happened right there?” Indeed! Once you consider time travel, everything changes. But before writing Hollywood scripts, let’s get back to reality and ask again: is the photo evidence of a time traveller? The source   […]

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  295. Disco Stu October 25th, 2010 6:49 am

    “Why not have him use something definitely out of time, like the logo for a company that wouldn’t be created until decades later, such as NIKE or even Microsoft? It would even make an amazing viral marketing for any company that managed to get buzz from this. Why not?”

    Because Disco Stu doesn’t advertise!

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  297. freshmanphoto2010 October 25th, 2010 5:06 pm

    […] be pretty authentic. No, I do not think it’s a “time traveller,” but just found this article and the photo itself to be an interesting and fun […]

  298. Time traveler caught on film? | Nescio.se October 25th, 2010 6:31 pm
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  300. Did Charlie Chaplin film a cell phone in 1928? October 26th, 2010 11:12 am

    […] reminds me of the recent flap regarding a modern-era hipster apparently captured in a photo taken in 1941. Being a sci-fi junkie, I’d really like to believe time travelers walk among us, but in these […]

  301. Owen Tew October 26th, 2010 2:22 pm

    Can’t be a time traveler. This says it’s November in Canada, but no one is really heavily bundled up — including the “hipster.” People aren’t tough enough anymore, so he’s clearly someone from the same time period.

  302. Josh October 26th, 2010 4:52 pm

    There are four things that stand out, leading me to believe this is a fake.

    1) Pretend the “time traveler” is not there and look at the man behind (whose hand is in front of the traveler). This man is in perfect position to be holding holding the camera, and likely is.

    2) Based on the notion that the man behind is actually holding the camera, the traveler’s “taller size” was artificially increased in order to block out enough of the man behind. Notice how the traveler’s right shoulder extends just enough to block the arm of the man behind, almost making it appear as if his arm is a part of the traveler. This may have been the creator’s original intent.

    3) We see the traveler’s left (gloved?) hand, but we do not see his left arm at all. If the man behind him is truly holding the camera, the traveler’s left hand could easily be positioned independently (it’s not “attached” to his arm in the photo) to look as if it’s holding the other end of the camera.

    4) The shadows and sun highlights on the time traveler’s face are different than the shadows on all other people. While several people are looking in the same direction as the time traveler, only he has a horizontal shadow cast across his face starting from his ear. The men with brimmed hats have similar horizontal shadows, however these are all along the hairline, not the cheek. This means the sun must be higher in the sky compared to where it would need to be to cast the long horizontal shadow spanning from the time traveler’s ear.

    Also notice how the traveler’s face/neck shadows begin and end to create a distinct 90 deg. vertical line (from his ear downward). Yet the face/neck shadows of all other people have a slight angle (shadow bottom extends to the right of the photo), and the cheek shadow is offset from that of the neck.

  303. sbtokyo October 26th, 2010 11:10 pm

    You’ve all got it BACKWARDS. It’s a modern photo of a modern male and a crowd of time travelers from 1940. My, how easily we all are fooled.

  304. Mori October 27th, 2010 12:30 am

    Well played, sbtokyo!

  305. Timetravel does exist! « Global Thinking October 27th, 2010 8:05 pm

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  306. Chris October 27th, 2010 9:01 pm

    I figure the traveler guy is blind, which explains both the glasses and the arm of the other man either reaching for the camera to use it or otherwise assisting the traveler guy in some manner.

    Now, what the hell is Walter Skinner doing in 1940s Canada?

  307. THeturtle343 October 28th, 2010 1:45 am

    A lot of people have pointed out that the dude could be a beatnik, and a lot of people have pointed out that the beatnik movement didn’t really arise until the 50s. To those people, I would like to point out that although Jack Kerouac’s On The Road is most commonly associated with the 50s in which it was published, it actually was written in an details Kerouac’s adventures in the 40s. Also, especially towards that massive post about people from the 40s all worse hats and obeyed the law and blah blah blah. You don’t think there was just one person in the world who didnt give a shit?

  308. Just My Personal Opinions October 28th, 2010 1:50 am

    Based on my observation, the photo is authentic. But still, no proof of “time traveling”.

  309. Ben October 28th, 2010 3:37 am

    A friend for the supposed ‘Charlie Chaplin’ Time Traveler!
    hahaha

  310. Arielle October 28th, 2010 6:51 am

    He looks so much like Vincent Cassel, the French actor. :)

  311. time traverler to 1928 - 9lives - Games Forum October 28th, 2010 8:46 am

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  314. […] When: 1940 Who: A hipster! This is the famous photograph that started the new craze for looking for time travelers in old photographs. This hipster’s got totally cool wraparound glasses, is wearing a faded old silkscreened t-shirt of the sort not made until the 1970s (when Forrest Gump popularized them), has a pocket-size digital camera around his neck, and a modern haircut. He’s also quite a bit taller than the people surrounding him, reflecting the greater height people have today. Who does he think he’s fooling? Read more here. […]

  315. Faatima October 28th, 2010 11:29 am

    It is a real photo, there is nothing off by the direction of the sun. Also, that shirt does indeed seem to be out of place. Not because I believe it to be printed (and not knitted) but, because of the design. Most college shirts have sharper cut “M’s” and it’s one large “M”, not a big white (or gray) square with a curvy modern looking “M” cut out. No person will take that much time to knit something like that when it is a design that is not worn. Also, that isn’t hipster, maybe half hipster, but no hipster would wear such a grandmotherly sweater over their cool shirt. It could be a person that hikes, or climbs, but wouldn’t that shirt be a little odd for them (assuming its printed)?
    The camera does not look like the Kodak camera pictured above, it looks just a tad bit more modern, but i’m sure there were nicer cameras back then and I can let that slide.
    Someone was wondering how come no one was staring except that women. For one, the women is not staring at him, shes staring at something past him. Not even looking at the photographer, but maybe something past him too. Who knows what she’s looking at. But she’s not looking (much less, staring) at the time traveler.
    Secondly, no one is staring because he’s wearing that thick sweater, covering his shirt, the people that could see his shirt have their back to him. Also, think about human nature. If we are at an event, and some weird clothed guy comes by, we are not going to stare and gawk at him for too long if we are more interested in the fact that a bridge or something else we aren’t used to seeing is happening.
    This picture doesn’t prove much, but I do strongly believe that is a printed t-shirt. Any other kind wouldn’t make sense. And its thin fabric, its NOT a sweater. Use your brain. Sweaters are not that thin, and we’d see that it was woven. It’s a T-shirt.
    The glasses are not really that out of time. If this is a time traveler, then he wouldn’t be but like a decade ahead. Also, why did no one catch this sooner? Why didn’t the photographer catch it? I mean, i’d think this would be some type of rumor that started when the photographer mentioned how weird the dude was, right? We shouldn’t just now be hearing of this.
    Also with the photoshop thing, give it up. If someone was gonna put a photoshop picture of a man in that crowd, he wouldn’t make it so everyone has to question the decade. It would be obvious, like maybe him holding a nextel phone or something. or even an iphone. If this is photoshopped, he screwed himself majorly.
    Also, has it occurred to anyone that this could very well be a time traveler simply trying to hide his identity? Maybe he just through on those glasses because he knew a pic would be taken of him, and he didn’t want his identity to be shown, he could be walking around today. Maybe he through that sweater on so that no one would give him crap about his clothes. How do we know he’s not wearing jeans and converses? I mean this could just be a smart time traveler, trying to protect himself.
    Either way, we may never know.
    So, time travel remains a mystery…

  316. Larry October 28th, 2010 2:36 pm

    The past is so bright I have to wear shades :P

  317. Carl October 28th, 2010 3:18 pm

    I think the only time traveller in this picture is A.D Walter Skinner, standing right next to the guy with the glasses and camera.

    Now THAT is an X-File.

  318. joquise October 28th, 2010 5:45 pm

    not very surprising that a welder would show up to the opening of a bridge with a camera
    i too take pride in what i do

  319. Fede October 28th, 2010 5:48 pm

    I think it’s a fake.. check why in my blog: http://www.vaggioblog.it/la-cazzata-della-settimana/

  320. "Time Traveler" From 1928 Caught on Film? October 28th, 2010 6:21 pm

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  321. […] caption was recorded from the Bralorne Pioneer Museum, where the original photograph hangs. More: click here. Full image […]

  322. Bill Wear October 28th, 2010 7:17 pm

    If his clothing and camera were that out of place, people would be reacting to him; they’re not.

  323. Jen October 28th, 2010 7:38 pm

    How old are all of you guys – 12? You’re discussing 1940 as if it were 1840. Certainly, there might have been *more* conformity in dress then, but it’s not like individuality (or various counter-cultures or just random/weird incidents) didn’t exist! My mom was born in 1943 and was quite amused by some of the comments on this page – “back then, people were shorter,” as if you were discussing dinosaurs or people of the Middle Ages. :) I’m going with collegiate sweater, some sort of outdoorsy/’glacier’ eyeglasses, and that he’s a photographer – probably amateur (a pro photog. would *probably* have been dressed in a suit if snapping pics of the bridge for his job/publication [newspaper, whatever].. that’d be true to some slight extent even today, particularly amongst older journalists [you know, going to ‘work’ in ‘business casual’ garb, rather than jeans and a t-shirt]). His being an amateur photographer would also explain his general ‘artsy’/’counterculture’ appearance, which comes across even to us 2010ers (hence the silly ‘time traveller’ stuff).

  324. Wade October 28th, 2010 9:18 pm

    Soon as I looked at this I thought photoshop. And a shit job as well, he’s pasted ontop of someone else, the shadows are wrong, hes like a foot and a half taller than anyone else. Can’t believe anyone would ever look at that picture and think it could be real.

  325. skiz October 29th, 2010 1:02 am

    Yes he does look a little out of place, but what is even odder is the woman is looking directly in his direction, so something grabbed her attention there, and the man standing next to him with the fedora doesn’t seem to enthused about getting his picture taken, even upon closer inspection his eyes seem to be staring right at the person that took this picture in a sort of MIB way…

  326. lipanz October 29th, 2010 5:26 am

    that’s not even look like a folding camera.. what in earth are u comparing.and the shirt design, that’s not event it.this is more modern.it’s obvious between bordered character and a cut through design character.

  327. harun din October 29th, 2010 5:27 am

    josh, are telling this is a photoshop?
    ROFL..u completely have a wrong assumption.
    this is an old picture took from a museum collections.they just realize it that there’s a time traveller in it.

  328. Linuxmonger October 29th, 2010 9:29 am

    Silly people – the man you seem to be looking at in the photo – with the camera – is not a time traveler, however, the photo was taken by Fox M. and is a picture of Agent Skinner behind the fellow with the camera!

  329. […] a blog post about the photo, “Time Traveler Caught in Museum Photo?” the author explains that the subject is not as foreign to his environment as he appears. He goes on […]

  330. Mike October 29th, 2010 12:12 pm

    Maybe this guy was just ahead of his time fashion-wise?

    We’ve all seen people today that just seem “a little out of place.” Trendsetters. They’re not dressed to suit the mainstream, but not too shabby either. It can seem like they’re from another time. I bet some of the people in this photo were thinking “why doesn’t this guy just put on his Fedora and throw on a suit like everyone else?”

    If there is any added historical value here maybe it’s the fact that we have a photo of North America’s first “slacker.”

  331. Miguel Nuñez October 29th, 2010 1:15 pm

    Well done Forgetmori! Here is another pic of our star. You can no doubt recognize him, same face, same expression. Not faked photoshop, not a time traveller, just a local worker that went to the big deal of a little town’s bridge opening to take a picture, probably with the same camera that took the more that 150 old pictures of trucks in the web page his picture is hosted in. He didn’t dress up for the ocassion, so what?

  332. Miguel Nuñez October 29th, 2010 1:16 pm
  333. Kevin October 29th, 2010 1:30 pm

    To make a point which is relevant to this any other possible “time traveller spotted in old photo” claims which may occur:

    It is not an issue that a time traveller would visit an apparently unimportant or mundane event as an on-looker. Whilst we do expect a time traveller would certainly visit events and people of world-wide importance we all are familiar with, it is also possible a time traveller would want to experience something that perhaps is important only to him or his family.

    What I mean is, a “time traveller” could visit that bridge opening because an ancestor of his was known to be there at the time, or the location has a particular importance to him and he wants to see it for himself.

  334. sally October 29th, 2010 2:17 pm

    go here to see the actual photo, on the virtual museum .

    link to album which this photo is on

    http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=record_detail&fl=0&lg=English&ex=00000470&hs=0&rd=117666

    or direct link to the website with original
    http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/CommunityMemories2/ABYC/0001/image/original/ABYC0001007b.jpg

  335. […] physicists and also the whole lack of cell towers in 1928 but, hey, I’m a skeptic. Still, like the time traveling hipster photo that was making the rounds a few months ago, it’s fun to believe. However, do we really want time […]

  336. carl October 29th, 2010 3:46 pm

    This is why I leave my technology in the present.

  337. Scott October 29th, 2010 4:23 pm

    This image on Th t-shirt is clearly an image of the band Slayer. Simply google images and you will see. Slayer is a modern era band. http://www.zgeek.com/content.php/2113-Time-traveller-caught-on-film

    Go to this URL and scroll down. Once you have that image Google slayer. Photo shopped or a Time traveler… who knows but That is the Slayer Logo!

  338. […] Más datos clic aquí (en inglés) […]

  339. […] Foto aus dem Jahre 1940 hatte vor einigen Monaten für eine ähnliche Debatte gesorgt. Darauf war ein Mann mit Sonnenbrille und einem T-Shirt, das aus dem H&M-Katalog stammen könnte, zu sehen g…, umgeben von Männern in den klassischen Anzügen […]

  340. monkey October 31st, 2010 1:16 am

    What about the original countach LP400, invented in the late 1960’s early 70’s it looks like a UFO along side the cars of its era. http://www.countach.ch/History/LP400/1120001_ray.jpg

  341. Ana October 31st, 2010 1:24 pm

    You are all idiots… Can’t you see David Letterman next to him? That’s the time traveller guys !!! :))

  342. C?l?tori în timp | DMax - Distrac?ie Maxim? November 1st, 2010 5:07 am

    […] 2. 1940 — un b?rbat are o camer? foto The man with what appears to be very modern sunglasses seems to be wearing a stamped T-shirt with a nice sweater, all the while holding a portable compact camera! Internet people reached to the obvious conclusion: it’s a time traveller caught on camera on 1940! Finally, we have proof! Time Traveler Caught in Museum Photo? […]

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  344. Emulman November 4th, 2010 9:37 am

    sorry..but showing the camera of the “time traveller”..isn’t possible it is a kodak camera 1940! it’s all black with that seemes a long telescopic len, all like a modern reflex camera! so or is a photoshop manipulation or it’s real…a reflex camera in 1940!

  345. Emulman November 4th, 2010 9:41 am

    and besides the little woman at the right of the guy sees him…it seems like she is curious about him, like he is different from other peoples..

  346. brett ramshaw November 4th, 2010 10:37 pm

    its actually me in the picture…how i ended up in a 1940’s picture somewhere in canada when im from britain is beyond me…oh and i was born in 1983.. obviously someone out there used a random picture of me and edited me in…otherwise im a real life time-traveller and i am not aware of this yet cos my future self couldnt be arsed to notify me… lol

    here check for yourself http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_127815203942247

  347. […] here to read the full story. It’s pretty […]

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  349. John November 8th, 2010 2:11 pm

    The “strange arm” is actually the time traveler’s and not the arm of the man behind him. It’s actually quite possible that the sleeves of his “hoodie” is simply different than the furry parts.

    It makes ~perfect~ sense

  350. Taylor November 8th, 2010 2:12 pm

    Okay. So, you can’t see that either arm is actually connected to him. It looks to me like the arms AND the camera, belong to the guy behind the tall one, and that the tall one is photoshopped into his arms. If you look closely at him and the other people, you can see differences that make it look not quite right. Something about the lighting, it’s basically the same but something is off about it…

  351. Nando November 8th, 2010 2:41 pm

    Right off the bat, what caught my eye was the slight difference in contrast. He seems just ever so slightly “softer”. Then I realized that he was wearing “different” clothing. Dunno…

  352. Will Grob November 8th, 2010 8:41 pm

    The thing is if he was really a time traveler surely they would get introuble and travel back intime to make sure this photo was never taken. hmm?

  353. Justin November 9th, 2010 1:01 am

    No No No, this is just Aldous Huxley within the terror filled grips of a Peyote trip. He’s just some Freak Out from the pre-hallucinogen era of American politics. Now everybody looks like this guy. Maybe he made it trendy before James Dean popularized blue jeans. Who knows?

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  355. Leslie November 9th, 2010 8:56 pm

    Whoever said the shadow of the ear proves it’s photoshopped should look at the full size picture. There are other similar shadows on other people in the full size photo. The shadow is consistent with the other shadows.

  356. melissa November 10th, 2010 12:57 am

    TIME LORD! 12th Doctor? I think so. :]

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  359. whowantsahug November 11th, 2010 9:44 pm

    Its John Cusack.

  360. anonymous November 13th, 2010 6:47 pm

    How about this: time travel doesn’t exist.

    Problem solved.

  361. […] Más datos clic aquí (en inglés) […]

  362. […] be time travellers amongst us! At least here are two pieces of “evidence” the first (see here) see’s a man watching in outlandish clothes looking a bit weird. Proof enough in itself […]

  363. Rupert November 15th, 2010 1:58 pm
  364. […] underneath. His hair style also seems unusual. But don’t jump to conclusions just yet.  This blog post on fogotomori does a good job at examining the photo and offering up explanations for the perceived […]

  365. Teejay November 25th, 2010 3:59 pm

    Wouldn’t it make sense that a man from the future would want to blend in with the “locals.” Additionally time travelers probably would not necessarily only go to historical sites and/or maybe this site will be historical in the future. Perhaps something important happens there in the future.

  366. […] reminds me of the recent flap regarding a modern-era hipster apparently captured in a photo taken in 1941. Being a sci-fi junkie, I’d really like to believe time travelers walk among us, but in these […]

  367. Evgeni Balamutenko November 30th, 2010 3:49 pm

    Finally, we can definitely answer one of the questions. The photo is 100% REAL.

    NTV Russian television crew was filming there at the museum and found the original photo in one of the albums. I held it in my arms. there are some scribblings on the back of the photo and a number.

    Who is this man, we are still uncertain, but we have at least 3 versions. Details to follow.

  368. […] Bralorne Time Traveler An odd picture on the internet caught the attention of much of the paranormal world this summer.  Part of the Bralorne […]

  369. […] answer one of the questions”, wrote us Evgeny Balamutenko on the mystery of the now famous Hipster Time Traveller attending the reopening of South Fork Bridge in […]

  370. Mike P. December 9th, 2010 12:43 am

    The photo is real. The Bridge River Lillooet newspaper has more info. NTV was just there a couple of weeks or so ago, as stated on this blog.

  371. Dan Smith December 9th, 2010 8:59 am

    People here have wondered by the heck this particular location at this time would be of so much interest to a future time traveller.

    The answer is obvious. Because of the attention paid to this photo of this particular place at this particular time. There you go.

  372. Darrell.P December 9th, 2010 2:43 pm

    My two bits. I feel photo is legit, but this is not a time traveller. The shadow across his face is from his ear due to allignment of his head. Look at allignment of other peoples heads and shadow cast. The time is around 3-4pm pst just before the sun sets behind Mt Zola. The sun will be a little lower in the sky for Nov. The cloths are from period and sunglasses suggest outdoorsman, hiker perhaps? If his identity cannot be tied to anyone in the valley, he is obviously visiting family our friends in Valley. Shirt is likely tied to post secondary institution from West Coast. It was not uncommon to have people semi-employed by Bralorne mine who were soley recruited for their Hockey skills. Bralorne and Prioneer had great Hockey/Baseball Teams and fought for bragging rights in the valley. Look back over the available pictures.

  373. jayynzee December 13th, 2010 5:23 am

    Some people are no fun. It may be, it may not be. Who really cares. Let the child in you believe its a time traveler and let the adult deal with the dull logic.

  374. Kika December 15th, 2010 3:10 am

    We should ask to an elderly person who lived in the 1940s if that guy looks familiar for that time or if it looks strange. The difficult thing it’s gonna be finding an old person who remembers.

  375. Time Travel Thread - GSM-Forum December 17th, 2010 12:14 am

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  376. […] So, how do we explain the man out of time? […]

  377. the eye December 24th, 2010 9:06 pm

    Fake his hands give it away! There to old and his right arm is to short for him!… Look where his elbow is! lol The line is just below his elbow!

  378. the eye December 26th, 2010 10:01 am

    [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/blades808/ABYC000a00fa3_thumb.jpg[/IMG]

  379. Mike January 2nd, 2011 6:12 pm

    He appears to be wearing a University of Michigan t-shirt with a printed block ‘M’ which by 1940 should have been easily available. Could the outside of the block M been a yellow color? Is it possible to find out?

    “Harold Lipson at Champion noted that his company sold its first order of printed T-shirts to an Ann Arbor, Mich., sport shop in 1933. Those shirts, printed with University of Michigan designs, may or may not have been the first printed T’s, but Lipson believes they were the beginning of the retail market.”

    http://www.markedixon.com/new_page_10.htm

  380. (P)erhaps a Cautionary Tale… | Sci-?nce! January 5th, 2011 9:14 am

    […] pop culture cases involve a woman on a cell phone in a Charlie Chaplin film, and an apparent ‘hipster time traveler’ caught on film in 1940. Both of these cases are presented, investigated, and explained by […]

  381. Neko January 5th, 2011 7:49 pm

    “… you may realize that the arm actually belongs to the man right behind him. Why would another man’s arm be in that position?”

    Dunno, from the way it look, it looks that guy is trying to steal the camera from the ‘time traveler’.
    That’s about the only reason I would think someone would be reaching around a person like that o_O”

  382. Neko January 5th, 2011 7:52 pm

    OR he was just trying to push past him…………

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  384. […] machine? I am not saying ti is or it is not, but how can you tell? How about these 2 people: forgetomori Time Traveler Caught in Museum Photo? YouTube – Time Travel? Woman Talking on Cell Phone in Charlie Chaplin Movie I also see a lot of […]

  385. ML January 20th, 2011 10:36 pm

    i dont know if somebody else pointed this out yet but i noticed that he is the only one whose light source is fairly different with other people in the picture. notice the forehead and the hats of the other people? there’s a light there, and he doesnt have any.

  386. George Wagner January 27th, 2011 12:28 am

    The rather cute brunette girl standing to the left of the “Time Traveler” and looking almost adoringly at him quite obviously KNOWS the guy and therefore they both live in the same time-line. Unless, of course, she is also a Time Traveler. (Come to think of it, I dated her in the mid-1960s.)

  387. AFriend January 27th, 2011 10:31 am

    Good story but….. His camera looks like it might be a 1940 vintage Leica III, a photo and description of which can be found here:

    http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/LeicaIII.html

    Yes, they had 35mm cameras with detachable lens in 1940. I was surprised myself when I looked it up.

    Keep searching for the smoking gun … this isn’t it.

  388. […] ??????? MTHAI   ??????? ??????? : http://forgetomori.com/2010/fortean/time-traveler-caught-in-museum-photo/ […]

  389. […] reminds me of the recent flap regarding a modern-era hipster apparently captured in a photo taken in 1941. Being a sci-fi junkie, I’d really like to believe time travelers walk among us, but in these […]

  390. Steven February 2nd, 2011 7:12 pm

    Does anyone know if there is a website with more serious comments after this picture being seriously analyzed?

    Time travel is in fact possible according to science, this picture may or may not be real however time travel is in fact a possible reality, however if this picture were real it would be such an important serious evidence, there must be a way to determine how real or fake this picture actually is

    As for the sunlight it does seem completely normal to me and in accordance to the picture, I can only see he has about 2 spots of what it seems some kind of light in his right hand unless he’s got some skin condition there… one spot at the end of his thumb and the other on his knuckle, if it is light then it looks kind of strange… where it came from? but anyway he has a similar spot on his left cheek which is not receiving sunlight…. if you notice you will see that around the base of his neck the skin color matches with the spot of the cheek and the ones on his right hand…

    There must be a serious study been done on this picture, anybody can you please point to it? Website, etc…?..

  391. […] […]

  392. […] e. I fucking love this article.. TIME TRAVELER FOUND IN 1940’s PICTURE here. […]

  393. tam February 10th, 2011 8:22 am

    look at the shadow cast by his ear, it goes all the way across the side of his face. look at everyone else. no long shadow cast like that at all on any of them. i’m going to say it’s a good hoax photo. kthxbye.

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  395. Stephen Hawking February 17th, 2011 7:33 pm

    Had the guy in the image been carrying an 8-track player I would be impressed. Maybe had he been wearing a Justin Beiber t-shirt instead….wow! Looking a certain way doesn’t make you a time traveler. I know. I have been into the 7th dimension and seen it all. Well, most of it all. The 10 dimension is where all the cool kids are going these days.. er, moments.

  396. Scott Pearce.com › Time Travel is Real February 19th, 2011 10:36 pm

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  397. skysenshi February 23rd, 2011 2:07 am

    No wonder those people didn’t seem like they think something (or someone) is out of place. If he were completely out of place, people would be gawking at him.

  398. theTimeTraveler March 21st, 2011 2:47 am

    *sighs* stop debating. i admit it. ever seen the Time Traveller’s Wife? I’m like that..it was based on me. Born with a genetic disease that allows me to slip in and out of time….never to settle in a certain place again. thank you for acknowledging me for a final time..its so difficult here.

  399. Amaterasu April 8th, 2011 3:20 pm

    My clue that that is NOT a man from the 1940’s is the wise edges on the sunglasses. Though the front shape was somewhat like the glasses of Barbara, the wide edges are a recent addition in fashion.

    And that shirt falls like a T-shirt would, not a sweater.

    Whether it’s a hoax…? I have no idea.

  400. Marc Lammens April 17th, 2011 3:50 pm

    A few remarks regarding this picture.

    First, I consider this photograph authentic. I don’t think there is anything in it that is manipulated. Second, I can’t judge if this guy is a time traveller, just that he is an oddly dressed fellow. But just because his shirt and sunglasses seem out of date, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist in 1941. And THEY DID exist back then.
    One should remember; what looks strange, doesn’t have to be strange. Only he who lacks knowledge might be confused.
    The best example I can give is about me. Until recently I didn’t know that neon lighting already existed in the 1920’s. Those glittering billboard were apparently already a technological reality in those early days. Especially those rolling advertisements on Times Square are impressive.
    (Call me dumb, but I didn’t know about it)
    So now, whenever I see pictures from the 1920’s, I‘m always a bit amazed about those state of the art advertisements. It seems so futuristic to me!
    But just because I was unaware of this doesn’t mean I think someone has gone back in time to the 1920’s and introduced a future technology. It was only ME who didn’t know about the early invention of neon lighting.

    The same can be said about our picture.

    When you analyse the guy’s shirt, it looks like one of a dozen that hang in my closet. The print is very interesting. And IT IS a print. There is no doubt. That letter is not stitched on or in some other way connected. Even in black and white you can clearly see it’s a flat letter on a thin shirt. Thus; a t-shirt.
    Logical question; did they have t-shirts in 1941? Did they make t-shirts with smooth print back then?
    The answer is of course; yes, they did and any internet search will confirm this with pictures and all.
    But some people claim the t-shirt is a 1960’s invention. Thus, they claim the discovery of a time traveller. However, proper investigation must conclude otherwise. T-shirts have been around even before 1900 and those with smooth print well before 1941. KNOW YOUR FACTS!

    The same can be said about the guy’s sunglasses. This typical model DID EXIST in 1941, so no debate here.

    So wearing a t-shirt or sunglasses does not make our guy a time traveller. He’s much more interesting to analyse as a product of his time.
    The vest he’s wearing is particularly intriguing. It looks like something made of wool, maybe borrowed from his grandmother?
    It’s a typical thing of that time. By this I mean; he wears something without to much consideration. His taste is not judged against the rest of society, his grandmother or, God forbid, any fashion magazines. Back then, wearing your parents clothes wasn’t considered lame. Today, you might get beaten up over it!
    People have called him a rebel or a hippie. I think he’s not the former, certainly not the latter. He’s somewhere in the middle. Let’s call him a conservative hipster. (As some youngster were called in those days) An early prototype of a free spirit. “A careful attempt to go wild”.
    His hair is goofy but, in his time, common and acceptable (Although his mother might feel otherwise). He’s probably educated and intelligent but no true rebel. He might smoke but he doesn’t do drugs or even know what they are. He might consume alcohol but he also enjoys a cappuccino in a bar on a Champs-Élysées or Piazza. He likes to read, maybe write, but still respects the establishment. (At least in 1941) He has some cultural curiosity, considering the fotocamera. He doesn’t look like your average reporter so it must be some personal interest. He looks like the early common tourist who loves to shoot pictures of Paris and Venice. (All those places people went on holiday in the late 40’s and 1950’s before the rest of the world became available.)
    In that sense, he is out of place. It looks like he stepped out of a bus in St. Tropez to do some sightseeing. Although, his sunglasses do influence that opinion.

    My conclusion is this; the guy is on a threshold. He’s a young man of a new generation. Twenty- something. Intelligent but tame and law abiding. Educated, yet born too early to be a true hippie or denounce society. The 2nd world war got in the way and most young men got drafted. Therefore, the rise against ruling powers began much later when people were free to do so.
    His life was possibly put on hold because he had to fight oversees. But he was still young enough to mature in a post- war world.

    He’s a sleeping rebel. A future hippie. And you’ll never, EVER, see him wear a hat!!

  401. steve boltzman April 19th, 2011 12:30 pm

    >> So, how do we explain the man out of time?<<

    Since that's so very obviously his UFO (virtual time machine, or "VTM") parked in the upper-right corner of the picture, why is any explanation necessary?

    Geesh!

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  403. Dakota April 26th, 2011 4:22 pm

    The young girl seems to be staring at the time traveller… they must have photoshopped her too then…

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  407. Unknown (error) June 9th, 2011 3:04 pm

    Im from year 2255 this time is so cool we can travel backwards forwards

    TimeTraveller

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  409. Daniel July 5th, 2011 9:56 pm
  410. Rafael July 12th, 2011 6:46 pm

    Mori you should to investigate about case of the mumy with Swiss watch. That can to be a travell timer

    sorry for my poor english. no is my original lenguage

  411. Damin August 13th, 2011 4:10 am

    Everyones looking at the man with the sunglasses and camera…when they should be looking at the old man with the glasses and hat a little bit behind him.

    Notice how he’s the only one in the entire photo that’s looking at the camera? That could mean he KNEW that photo would be taken from a future source. Also, it would make much more sense to dress in that timelines clothing, rather than something nobody else wears so that they don’t risk exposure to their kind.

  412. Born in Bralorne August 13th, 2011 8:05 pm

    I recently visited Bralorne and went to the museum where this photo is displayed. Sally is the woman who is curator of the museum. Being a very small town, she also owns and operates the Mineshaft Pub there. I don’t really want to leave the number to the pub here, but if you google it you can find it.
    And yes, I was born in Bralorne awhile back.

  413. Vicki August 15th, 2011 12:05 am

    The reason he looks “out of place” to you is because you have absolutely no idea what the 40’s was like other than the movies where every man wore a suit and tie and hat. Seriously? Every man in 1940 wore a suit and tie and hat? Did any of you actually look at the full size picture, where several men are *gasp* not wearing hats?! Geez. Several people have pointed out he looks like he just hopped off his motorcycle to take some pictures with a camera that looks very similar to my dad’s huge collection of vintage cameras. Or just came from the mines. Either way, not everyone in 1940 dressed like a business man, since, logically, not every man in 1940 was a business man. They were miners, farmers, bikers, and any other less than formal titles. The young girl in question seems to me to be looking at the camera that took this picture, because I’m sure back then, cameras were a luxury many people couldn’t afford, and she hoped she’d have her picture in the paper. Is that really such an ungraspable concept? His height: 1940s had no tall people? o-0 Come on now, don’t be complete nincompoops. My grandfather, born in the 20’s, over 6ft tall. My great-grandfather, clearly born much earlier, well over 6ft. In this picture he’s only a little taller than the men and a foot and a half taller than the women, but of course by your 1940s logic, the women must be the same height as all the men. I’m not making assumptions about women’s height in the 40’s, since there are tall women in the crowd. Although, we are seeing the picture from an angle that’s clearly above everyone’s heads, so the illusions and proportions are naturally a little off. Also people are moving, which throws off shutter speeds of vintage cameras, causing blurs and things, also even modern cameras are well known to cause illusions of things that aren’t there (shadows, the way clothing looks, funny things hair does). But there are many commentors here who fancy themselves photography experts who have never heard of optical illusion photography, and assume that proportions and objects in pictures must follow all preset rules and regulations. All I’m saying is, it’s not rocket surgery here people. It’s a guy, in 1940, that doesn’t look like your 1940 era movie inspiration. 100 years from now, though, I’m sure there are also going to be people with no common sense, who think all women wear meat dresses and all men wear their sister’s skinny jeans, and that the picture of you holding the moon in your hand was so obviously photoshopped.

    http://www.thephotoargus.com/inspiration/28-mind-bending-examples-of-optical-illusion-photography/

  414. Tiante August 15th, 2011 7:23 pm

    I’m not totally sure about the glasses or camera but I do know that the tshirt is either batman or wonder woman (ww is hard to believe) yet it could be true… Maybe we will never know

  415. cristiano August 17th, 2011 11:40 am

    de uma olhada na garota da foto ela esta olhando para possível viajante do tempo ……

    porque sera , perceba que olhar dela e de coisa nova engraçada e diferente

  416. Marc Chevalier August 17th, 2011 1:20 pm

    The sunglasses worn by this man were common enough in the late 1930s. Here’s a link showing two late ’30s advertisements for them: http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?51649-Time-Traveler-spotted-at-the-1928-Chaplin-film-quot-The-Circus-quot&p=1285762&viewfull=1#post1285762

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  418. Dave August 18th, 2011 3:10 pm

    Forgetomori – thanks for the exposure for virtualmuseum.ca and the Bralorne Museum on this. Glad to see he’s still a popular topic of discussion. We’ve also been getting a fair bit of mileage out of the “hipster”. We recently did an episode on our educational podcast series History Matters ~ http://bit.ly/px8B2d ~ and used it as a case study paper presentation on IP for the Museums and the Web 2011 conference. You have a mention somewhere in it ~ http://bit.ly/eKeE3N ~ a TV show in Japan did a show on him last month.

  419. travelers from the future « a farther room August 21st, 2011 3:34 pm

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  420. Eddy Pengelly September 1st, 2011 1:58 am

    On the topic of Time Travel Evidence…

    An Australian researcher has found modern objects described and depicted in ancient stories and texts.

    At least 15 ‘encounters back in the past’ have been identified.

    If you have access to or copies of the modern objects cited, you are able to easily confirm this claim for yourself.

  421. artifactsofmars September 7th, 2011 1:22 pm

    Well boss the printed t-shirt did not come along until the 1960’s. This guy’s hair style is wrong for the era. No one else is wearing sunglasses. I can’t tell anything about the camera. The sun’s position and brightness on him is correct.

  422. Sharon September 10th, 2011 5:12 pm

    It’s from the X Files people…it is Agent Skinner next to that guy….its def. a film set. Looks too false to be anything else.

  423. B in STL September 13th, 2011 5:03 pm

    I showed this to my elderly grandma and she said “There were people who looked and dressed like that in that time frame. There were people who dressed much more oddly.”

  424. Kelly September 20th, 2011 1:36 am

    Couldn’t he be a 1940s beatnik?

  425. christiann September 20th, 2011 1:56 am

    Someone said the logo on his shirt looks like the Montreal Maroons logo. I googled the team and found a player who was on that team and who sort of looks like the man in the photo: Hooley Smith. I can’t say it’s him, but they look alike, and Smith would have been 36-37 in 1940. His hair is shown slicked back in all the photos of him, so he might’ve looked like the “time traveller” after a few days without hair products. Being a professional athlete, Smith might also have dressed differently from most people and had glasses like this too. Hey, who knows right?

    Wikipedia page for Hooley Smith: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooley_Smith
    Google image search: http://www.google.com/search?q=Hooley+Smith&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1139&bih=683

  426. tata September 20th, 2011 12:15 pm

    hi mori, the proves that u have given so far gave me a lot of knowledge. u have been so detail in my country indonesia there is a program that also discusses about unique things called on the spot. they have ever broadcasted this photograph before but they didn’t analyze it like u did. i think u r so brilliant to have found a lot of supporting ideas that the man could be inserted to create an illusion about the existence of a time traveler. now i know that time traveler is a myth.thanks to your brilliant review.

  427. thegroundbeforeyou September 25th, 2011 3:11 am

    Karoly you tard that shirt has the letter M on it. Its not rounded.

  428. indo October 22nd, 2011 6:18 pm

    he’s sweater is not “W” but “M”

  429. […] waiting to see this debunked soon. Already there is quite a discussion taking place on forgetomori. Now, as the ultimate skeptic, I doubt there’s anything to this, but it sure is interesting […]

  430. luis November 11th, 2011 2:22 am

    This traveler is physically very similar to me as impressive. My own family was shocked when they noticed the resemblance. This is absolutely true, I have a time-traveling clone or a fake just like me. You can see my photos on Hi5 or facebook, will immediately notice the resemblance. Look at my blog. Greetings!

  431. Alex November 23rd, 2011 6:31 pm

    Sorry for my bad English, I am from Russia.
    I recently watched the movie Spielberg’s “Empire of the Sun” (a film shot in 1987, but of the film takes place in 1937-45, respectively). There, at the end of the movie has a scene where a boy in a concentration camp singing the Welsh national anthem, and at the same time for a few seconds show the face of one of the main characters, which wore the same glasses as in this photo (the scene about 1 hour and 50 minutes into the movie).

  432. Sandi November 26th, 2011 5:33 am

    The perspective is completely wrong. Look at the size of his head compared to the heads that are parallel with his. Then look at the ones behind and in front…. this is one super sized time traveler! Maybe the logo on his shirt is an early M for McDonalds…

  433. Paul Levinson December 2nd, 2011 3:55 am

    Check this out – conversation between time travelers John Titor and Sierra Waters, 2006-2007 http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/11/2006-2007-exchange-with-john-titor.html

  434. Jimmy December 17th, 2011 2:49 pm

    I didn’t read many of the comments, but the puzzle of the right arm holding the camera, seemingly belonging to the man behind…this can be explained. If you will notice, the guy is wearing a jacket under the outer knit sweater. What cannot be seen is the outer knit sweater may be sleeveless, over a light jacket, which explains the mis-matched sleeve. The sleeve does not match the gentleman standing behind, who is probably dressed in a suit like the other men in the crowd. It more closely resembles the sleeve of a light jacket and appears to have a knit cuff, as well as a knit collar. The hand appears different on the right from the left, explained by being in shadow, while the left is not. What makes the subject stand out from the crowd is the way he dresses suggests he does not conform to the standards of dress of the time, preferring a more casual attire. An anomaly, he fits with the era, but stands out from the norm. And that’s normal! The glasses also make that same statement, being different than the norm. He was probably considered an eccentric, or odd, bohemian, beatnik, etc.

  435. Jimmy December 17th, 2011 4:54 pm

    After reading some of the comments, they are as diverse as are their respective intellects. Reading into something so simple makes it complicated beyond belief. Interesting and entertaining, some logical, and some ridiculous. Expert analysis show the photo to be genuine. Being a talented amateur hardly qualifies an opinion arguing against this. Making an observation or an opinion is cool, but leaving out all the considerations and instead inventing reasons shows lack of perception.
    There seems a lot of comments about the light and shadows being wrong, about illusions caused by perspective and angle, etc. Clarity and definition in photography of the time were affected by the technology available. Black and white photography creates different effects and perspectives than color photography. Other influences that affect lighting are the unseen causes of shadows that appear different from one person to another, standing together. Reflected light from car or building windows, sunlight angle, telephone or light poles, wires, other people, other variables at any location outside the photo, but affecting the direct light on the subjects, will cause differences. The photo may have been taken with, but maybe without a flash, since the crowd was stationary.
    I would love to believe the theory of time travel is valid, just as much as anyone. Or the theory of bending space to travel to other galaxies. These theories will be explored and made to be reality, maybe. If so, I’m sure that reality will be a closely guarded secret, for elite few to know about. Tampering with the past would have drastic consequences to our existence in real-time. Wanting to believe in that reality, being influenced by movies and TV depictions of time travel, and an active imagination will produce all sorts of opinions and arguments. One thing seems certain, the U.S. Government and Military would never let this reality be known if it existed, any more than the pharmaceutical manufacturers, the Physicians, or the insurance companies would allow the World to know there is a cure for Cancer, or even the common cold. Never going to happen! Just think about it, the billions in profits being made for treatment and drugs used for the treatment of Cancer. It’s all about the money and the power. One controls the other. These are the facts of life.
    The guy in the photo? It just proves there were people who stood apart from the crowd, even back then. He was tall, he dressed differently, he was unusual. Nothing new there. Not a time traveller. It is a great example of diverse human perspective.

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  437. bnosn;bki January 1st, 2012 6:04 pm

    There is no way that the traveler’s right arm is the man next to him. If it is, that is an oddly disproportionate arm. It would be too long.

  438. John Smith January 3rd, 2012 4:33 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD_b83_RpJ0&feature=player_embedded
    Video of picture being “found” in Bralorne Museum. It is a real picture.

  439. leia January 3rd, 2012 7:38 pm

    Have any of you thought that maybe the “M” on his shirt was for his name? I know plenty of people even now who have been given sweaters with their enitials on. It’s like a tradition for grandparents :P

  440. Tobius Lunar January 5th, 2012 2:08 pm

    Timetravel has been going on for sometime however it will not be done for another 137yrs CERN almost do it later this year but mess up. Thanks to them an there big bang games they tear a hole in the fabric of time not to meantion the worm hole that they will close but not with out a great cost to mankind. Not all the photos are proof but in two of the photos they are from a future just not earths. There are a number of Tempus Viator on this planet however you would never know. They are all here for a reson and no none of it bad. The Tempus Fugit programme was set up sorry will be set up in about 149yrs 2161. It is not of earth so those of you who think it will be in your life time sorry no can do. I know of 8 Tempus Viators that came here between 1964-1978 after that something happened and nomore have come and of those 8 only 3 remain. It is thought that the programme got damaged on the last Tempus Fugit. Oh by the way if you think this is just the ravings of a madman please check mankinds so called breakthroughs in the world of computers. In the past 15yrs you have gone massive desktop bulky labtops to tablets and handhelds that have more power than what was used to first send mankind in to space.

  441. Dawn Murphey January 11th, 2012 11:25 pm

    Look at the light source on the ‘traveler’ and compare it to the light source on other people in the photo. Pretty obvious hoax. Light comes from behind the traveler’s head such that a shadow is cast from behind his ear onto his left cheek. Everyone else is highlighted by light shining directly onto the left side of their faces, illuminating them fully–no shadows. I doubt there were two suns, one shining from the front right onto everyone else, and one shining only on the ‘traveler’ from behind his head.

    Looks like this character was photoshopped on top of the man supposedly standing behind him.

  442. Jimmy January 14th, 2012 6:49 am

    I reiterate, the photo is not proof of time travel. It’s cool to speculate and postulate for the sake of arguing the existence of possibility. I’m from Roswell, I know a little about what our Government and our military refuse to be honest about. The technology we now have came a long way since 1947. The artefacts recovered from the 1947 crash will have been in research for 65 years, this coming July. And still the very existence of them is denied and the documents are still censored illegally.
    65 years and we have successfully reverse-engineered only the simplest of what was recovered. It’s not because the pieces were badly damaged from the impact. They weren’t! It’s because the technology is so far advanced that we still aren’t able to understand it, operate it, reverse engineer it. The scientists will be working on that stuff until they figure it out, though. Even if it takes a hundred years. Because they are in a race with the other scientists from other countries who have recovered similar artefacts. Whoever figures it out first will use it to either control or destroy the rest of the world, depending on who gets it first. I would not like to be subject to the control of China or Russia, both working like fanatics to figure out how to use what they have. If something that advanced is unleashed, I hope it’s us instead of them!
    Of course, the paradigm the U.S. displays might make that technology seem safer, if you live in the U.S. One thing is certain, if it can be used as a weapon, it will be a weapon before anything else.

    If they find a portal, or artificial black hole generator, a way to transfer living tissue from one place to another, or how to operate the propulsion system, things will change in a way even Asimov could not imagine.

    A time machine? It’s been theorized that while it may be possible to go ahead in time, it may not be possible to go back, or come back. Besides, if it were, one insignificant act might change this existence to no existence. Be careful what you wish for…

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  445. Michael January 27th, 2012 11:00 am

    Quote from another discussion:

    “As stated in the other post, it is George Thomson who worked at the mine. He was tall and had crazy hair with the solid widow’s peak.”

    I like Peter Richard’s comment that the tall man is George Thomson.

    Here’s another photo from the same collection taken nearby in 1938 or 39. A man who looks very much like the “time traveller” is in the top row, second from the left: http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=search_record_detail&fl=0&lg=English&ex=00000470&rd=117594&sy=cat&st=&ci=4

    And here is George Thomson in 1962: http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=record_detail&fl=0&lg=English&ex=00000470&rd=117566

    As much as the guy sticks out and I’d like him to be a time traveller, I think he’s

  446. MatD January 28th, 2012 1:30 pm

    Glacier glasses, aviation glasses, motorcycles glasses. Point is that they might not have been incredibly common but they existed at the time.

    As for the size of the camera, it doesn’t look any smaller than the one being used by the man to the left of frame. And he certainly appears to be dressed for the period.

  447. Carl January 30th, 2012 9:42 am

    Well, so you’ve seen the “Time Traveling Hipster” but have you seen “Time Traveling Hippies”?

    http://www.freakoutmovie.org/?p=523

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  451. emily weirdnez March 18th, 2012 11:42 pm

    maybe that arm that was shown in the picture was trying to steal the camera from him. this is a crime caught on camera! :|

  452. axelandra April 8th, 2012 12:11 pm

    Hello, I find this image interesting and I would like to use it in a paper research on hipsters that might be published in the online university journal of my university. Are there any copyrights?
    Thanks

  453. Mori April 8th, 2012 8:26 pm

    Probably not, but you should ask the Bralorne Pioneer Museum through its manager, Cara deMare.

  454. Mathew April 25th, 2012 1:34 am

    My first impression of the camera is it is a Kodak Duex from 1940-42. The Duex has a metal body and a bakelite telescoping fixed focal length lens. The lens is rotated out to its shooting position and is rotated back for storage. It shot on Kodak 620 film. Basically it was 120 film on propriatory Kodak spools.

  455. waffle May 16th, 2012 3:43 pm

    at least he can say he had time traval befor it was cool…

  456. Brad May 26th, 2012 9:58 am

    Ok, after a few hours of analyzing this photo, it is clearly a fake.

    This has nothing to do with the time travellers attire, stance, purported camera etc.

    Simply he just does not belong in this photo.. spatially.

    Please compare the photos linked below. I have upped the contrast to show the difference between his cardigan/coat and the other gentleman’s arm. There is no way the man’s arm behind him is out of proportion – It is indeed this gentleman that is holding the camera.

    When our time traveller is rotoscoped out of the image, spatially it makes so much more sense. It doesn’t take much imagination to see that the man behind him belongs in this photo and our time traveller simply does not.

    A very well done fakery, but a fakery nonetheless.

    http://s7.postimage.org/k6wrgr10b/comparison.jpg

  457. Steve June 3rd, 2012 9:29 pm

    The photo has already been scrutinized by experts and found valid. And as many have pointed out, nothing really about the hipster is out of place in time or loc. I don’t really see anything that looks as you describe. The motive to fake such a shot is questionable at best. I have seen other older photos that sometimes have someone in the shot that timely looks out of place with their attire or hair style and gesturing pose, and such is not too unusual. The time frame gap wasn’t quite as surreal, but I’ll never forget a worn a faded copy cover of Rolling Stone from ’74’ I saw in 1985. David Bowie was known for being ahead of his time, but his solid ’80’s hair and look made it seem like the cover photo shoot had occured just months prior instead of 11 years before.

  458. SimonCrowe774 July 13th, 2012 12:13 am

    The man in the picture who is wearing glasses has a name of Marvin Stellino. He is a time traveler. Yes. He is from the year 2162. If you look closely you will see he has features that do not match those of the people photographed in his sphere or in your time. Human Refactoring has made way for him to have these incredible features. Look at his forehead, his beautiful chin. He is a superior being to them and to you. We have traveled tgtr on occasion. We are part of the same guild but we were born many years apart. The organization controls well. You are all safe and have no fear except for that which would get you anyway.

    Please understand we instead no harm. We travel to change things that must be changed and clean up. You can not comprehend a reality not restricted by choices. Everything changes and nothing can be define. Many are living among you now because they want a world before it all changed.

    I’m writing on this web now only for one purpose and it is as follows: Joe Martin as you read this know it’s for you. It can be done yes! Your dream is important and you must chase it. It will not be easy. Do not let her stop you. what you suspect is true in your heart. Your heart has led you to search, but know she was sent to distract. Do not let her win.

    That is all. If I could tell the rest of you one last thing it would be to pay close attention to the skies at night. There are secrets there for your eyes if you’ll open your mind. We pay close attention to the skies in the future.

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  460. cheyenne July 17th, 2012 1:07 pm

    To simon crow, the man who put a comment before me about Marvin Stellino. I have seen the skies at night and i have felt the sensation of “others” from the earth. i believe that this man is a time traveler or in with illuminati. anything is possible. there is no such thing as coincidences.

  461. Russ July 25th, 2012 9:46 am

    All very good words Mr Crowe but how to get people to believe the words? If they have a problem with the arm which is quite clearly belonging to the ”time traveler” how are you going to convince them about TT ? Well as luck would have it in the near future from today (25/07/2012) things will happen that will open there eyes and really make them think / believe. So how do I know this ??? How do you think I know this. Keep looking up :) Your friend Russ

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  469. Jonathan P. Rivard January 19th, 2013 2:46 am

    Michigan long sleeve wool shirt. Sheep’s wool sturdy zip-jacket. Protective motorcycle sunglasses. 35mm (?) high end camera hold by his arm.

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  471. Chris February 22nd, 2013 10:38 am

    Im pretty sure these are the exactly glasses he’s wearing. Out in 1932.

    http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/dinerman3/November%2020%202011/193801Stitch.jpg

  472. Slick April 17th, 2013 11:13 am

    Sooooo many comments? Wow. Question: If indeed you develop a way to travel through time, would you not ensure that you go through the trouble of ensuring you fit in? People have never been very accepting of those that look different, and i am certain that showing up wearing the latest nike or adidas gear would be a bad idea. This is just some guy trying to get a nice foto.

  473. Paul Levinson April 17th, 2013 8:25 pm

    I agree completely! Even in my time travel novels and stories, I always make sure my time travelers are dressed appropriately. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AMUDJNS/ref=nosim

  474. matt May 13th, 2013 4:35 pm

    Those “sunglasses” look very much like a pair of welding goggles that were worn around that time.

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  476. Mary August 3rd, 2013 9:02 am

    He is being looked at kind of weird, but he is also wearing goggles not sunglasses. And I would agree with everything except the shirt doesn’t look like it has a sown on emblem, in fact, the logo or what ever it is looks spray painted on with the dark colour the same as the shirt colour. So it would suggest the spray paint was used with a stencil. I don’t know if such things were done then, but its definitely interesting to speculate.

  477. Loomis Webb August 11th, 2013 4:36 pm

    U.S. Patent Filed for John Titor’s Time Machine

    Patent Application US20060073976 was filed for a Method of Gravity Distortion and Time Displacement. The filing date is listed at October 1, 2004 by Marlin B. Pohlman of Tulsa, Oklahoma. The application includes the identical images posted by John Titor online, as well as the time travel theory he discussed.

    Patent granted in 2006.

    http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20060073976.pdf

    http://www.johntitor.com/

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